tgo Posted January 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 Jesus Christ. IsntLifeFunny, Cornrow Wallace, and 'Nator 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) I wouldn’t say he’s hands off. Just off the top of my head he did a missile strike on Syria, is doing roughly twice as many drone strikes, and killed an Iranian general. Just because established authority figures say something is good is doesn’t mean it is. Remember Vietnam? I don’t trust Trump to do it but it’s a good idea to take a look at our decades long involvement in a region and what we have to show for it (mostly a lot of death with no real results). Why so you think Bernie would be anti diplomacy? He was pro Iran deal Edited January 28, 2020 by Titans279 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-RAC Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 47 minutes ago, tgo said: Think Sanders will be even more hands off in the ME than Trump? Probably so - recipe for disaster in terms of an ISIS resurgence and terrorism cells. Pretty much any Democratic candidate will be more hands off in the ME. See Soleimani and other points above. Frankly, this is just is a dumb GOP talking point and a line of attack they'll use regardless of who wins the primary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted January 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, T-RAC said: Pretty much any Democratic candidate will be more hands off in the ME. See Soleimani and other points above. Frankly, this is just is a dumb GOP talking point and a line of attack they'll use regardless of who wins the primary. Biden has said that he would leave some troops in the ME strategically to counter ISIS resurgence and as anti terrorism forces. And to much more heavily engage diplomatically. Which is the right approach. He was against removing troops from Syria as Trump did, for example, leading to the slaughter and displacement of the Kurds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-RAC Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, tgo said: Biden has said that he would leave some troops in the ME strategically to counter ISIS resurgence and as anti terrorism forces. And to much more heavily engage diplomatically. Which is the right approach. I would expect this approach from any of the democratic candidates. As far as Trump pulling out of Syria, the contrast it strikes with his other moves in the region make him look less like a dove and more like Putin's puppet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 32 minutes ago, tgo said: Jesus Christ. zealots gonna zealot. Not even worth the time anymore. Extremism on both sides will destroy this country. Pragidealist, tgo, and No1TitansFan 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 Of course Sanders can win. Only establishment shills think he doesn't have a prayer. They were the same people who predicted that Elizabeth Warren would just magically take all his voters. How's that working out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 56 minutes ago, tgo said: Keep those blinders on and keep pretending that well more than half the country isn't conservative or centrist. You couldn't be more wrong. For instance it's a fact that many of the blacks that always vote Democrat are conservative or moderate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted January 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Little Earl said: You couldn't be more wrong. For instance it's a fact that many of the blacks that always vote Democrat are conservative or moderate. Ya, that's my point - well over half the country is conservative or moderate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Of course Sanders can win. Only establishment shills think he doesn't have a prayer. They were the same people who predicted that Elizabeth Warren would just magically take all his voters. How's that working out? Cant fix the idiots on the extreme left... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, oldschool said: Cant fix the idiots on the extreme left... Guess not but maybe I can still help those in the unpopular "center": Step 1: Remove head from anal cavity... Step 2: Remove Hillary poster from wall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-RAC Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rolltide said: That is dumb, the democrats are like the neocons when it comes to middle east wars. Biden is the biggest war monger running for president. That's pretty rich considering that our last several GOP presidents stuck us in the middle of open-ended ME wars and the current one sanctioned the assassination of a ME military leader that might be a war crime. Unless Trump has since declared none of that stuff ever happened. If so, I'm sure you believe it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted January 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, T-RAC said: That's pretty rich considering that our last several GOP presidents stuck us in the middle of open-ended ME wars and the current one sanctioned the assassination of a ME military leader that might be a war crime. Unless Trump has since declared none of that stuff ever happened. If so, I'm sure you believe it. Modern GOP presidents from Nixon forward have been truly awful. HW Bush is the best one since Eisenhower. And that says all we need to know. Edited January 28, 2020 by tgo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 hour ago, tgo said: Ya, that's my point - well over half the country is conservative or moderate. Sorry, I see what you were saying now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 8 hours ago, Starkiller said: If Biden weren’t such a terrible candidate I would be fully behind him. But he is who has always been, except old now. They needed a young, charismatic candidate to be the nominee. But with Booker out they don’t have any left. Yep - so vote the most likely to beat trump MadMax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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