The former President is stone cold stupid. Just listen to him.

[MadMax]

 

[OILERMAN]

 

[IsntLifeFunny]

1 hour ago, OILERMAN said:

 

If only the news media had Costa's spine and were this direct we would be done with all of this. 

Edited February 27, 2024 by IsntLifeFunny

[pamo9]

14 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

If only the news media had Costa's spine and were this direct we would be done with all of this. 

Yet Costa is also on record as saying Biden is too old, so there's that too 

Edited February 27, 2024 by pamo9

[IsntLifeFunny]

3 minutes ago, pamo9 said:

Yet Costa is also on record as saying Biden is too old, so there's that too 

Biden is too old. I have no problem with someone mentioning that and then thoroughly destroying Trump. There's a huge difference between stating a fact and then annihilating the other side versus equivocating. 

[Jamalisms]

 

 

Nailed it.

['Nator]

 

[Justafan]

17 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

If only the news media had Costa's spine and were this direct we would be done with all of this. 

I don't think we would. I think the more people speak out against Trump, the more his supporters dig in their heels in defiance to the "elitists" and the "freeloaders" and the "intellectuals". 

[Justafan]

2 hours ago, pamo9 said:

Yet Costa is also on record as saying Biden is too old, so there's that too 

He's right on both counts. 

[IsntLifeFunny]

3 minutes ago, Justafan said:

I don't think we would. I think the more people speak out against Trump, the more his supporters dig in their heels in defiance to the "elitists" and the "freeloaders" and the "intellectuals". 

Maybe. Did you read the link @chef linked? It talked about the chaos voter who doesn't care about either party. They only want to see the world burn. 

 

You're correct. I think my post meant if this was 2016 instead of almost a decade later. Once he became president it was over and a part of our fabric at this point.

[Justafan]

1 minute ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

Maybe. Did you read the link @chef linked? It talked about the chaos voter who doesn't care about either party. They only want to see the world burn. 

 

You're correct. I think my post meant if this was 2016 instead of almost a decade later. Once he became president it was over and a part of our fabric at this point.

Yes, it was a good piece. I think there are a lot of blue collar white America who feel like they have been left behind by a changing America. I imagine many felt the same way in the 80's when women started to make real inroads in the work place and sexual harassment suits started crushing men who had gotten away with it for years and older Americans who had been homophobic and racist their entire lives and never held responsible for it but now all of a sudden were. 

 

This is why politics is so hard for me. It's easy to take that and throw lots of people in a box of racism and everything else and that is often what happens, including on this forum all the time. Reality and motivations are so much more complicated than that though. 

[IsntLifeFunny]

17 minutes ago, Justafan said:

Yes, it was a good piece. I think there are a lot of blue collar white America who feel like they have been left behind by a changing America. I imagine many felt the same way in the 80's when women started to make real inroads in the work place and sexual harassment suits started crushing men who had gotten away with it for years and older Americans who had been homophobic and racist their entire lives and never held responsible for it but now all of a sudden were. 

 

This is why politics is so hard for me. It's easy to take that and throw lots of people in a box of racism and everything else and that is often what happens, including on this forum all the time. Reality and motivations are so much more complicated than that though. 

I thought it was an interesting discussion inside of its own piece. It seemed to me he was having a discussion with himself about the why. 

 

That is political science in a nutshell, trying to understand the mechanism of why people follow and how people who lead come to power and what that means for the landscape it defines between the two entities.

 

I've backed off of thinking I know the answers. I can spot an asshole from a mile away, but is that because I'm one? Probably. Judging others doesn't help the cause of furthering the truth in most instances. 

[OILERMAN]

 

[nine]

5 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

 

 

 

It's gonna be hilarious when the few Trump supporters who were dumb enough to throw away money on this godawful swill finally receive their orders only to find the product has a "Made in China" sticker inside.

[MadMax]

1 hour ago, nine said:

 

 

It's gonna be hilarious when the few Trump supporters who were dumb enough to throw away money on this godawful swill finally receive the product only to find a "Made in China" sticker inside.

@Little Earl let us know, when you get yours.