Rishard To Quit If Forced To Stand

[ChesterCopperpot1]

13 minutes ago, JakePA_Titan said:

And blacks sell all the drugs that kill ppl. Yet y'all get stopped and it's only because of skin color.  

Drug dealers come in all colors. 

[Huston]

9 minutes ago, JakePA_Titan said:

Would love to see all the proof you have.

 

Seems to me like blacks are saints and whites are demons in your eyes.

 

Blacks do no wrong. 

“Although rates of drug use and selling are comparable across racial lines, people of color are far more likely to be stopped, searched, arrested, prosecuted, convicted and incarcerated for drug law violations than are whites.”
Drug Policy Alliance website

[Huston]

An intriguing quote by a former aide to disgraced US President Richard Nixon is making headlines.

Harper’s Magazine reports a 1994 conversation with John Ehrlichman, a key White House policy adviser, in which Ehrlichman claims that the “war on drugs” Nixon declared in 1971 was rooted in racism.

Ehrlichman is quoted as saying: “The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the anti-war left and black people.

“You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalising both heavily, we could disrupt those communities.

“We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

If accurate, the quote appears to confirm what many critics of US drug policy have long alleged – that there is a racial bias built into the way drug crime is handled by the justice system.

 

 

 

[Huston]

The systems hasn't changed much since then.

[h4t]

All drug crimes should be made into a misdemeanor.  That would end most of this problem

[Huston]

2 minutes ago, h4t said:

All drug crimes should be made into a misdemeanor.  That would end most of this problem

Way to much money being made with the laws they have in place, let alone the control it gives.

Edited October 13, 2017 by Huston

[Huston]

Can we steer this away from the white VS black thing please.

[ChesterCopperpot1]

10 minutes ago, h4t said:

All drug crimes should be made into a misdemeanor.  That would end most of this problem

Make them all legal. The war on drugs was created to fill prison cells and fund private prisons. Imprisoning people is big business. 

[Huston]

It’s tempting to blame these disparities on racism among individuals in the police and judiciary, but there are alternative explanations.

Notoriously, sentencing rules introduced in the 1980s to halt the spread of crack cocaine disproportionately affected African-Americans.

For many years, possession of 5g of crack could trigger a five-year minimum sentence, compared to 500g of powdered cocaine. The ratio was reduced from 100:1 to 18:1 in the 2010 Fair Sentencing Act.

There are other elements of self-fulfilling prophecy in the sentencing statistics.

Human Rights Watch put it like this: “The likelihood of incarceration increases if the defendant has a prior conviction. Since blacks are more likely to be arrested than whites on drug charges, they are more likely to acquire the convictions that ultimately lead to higher rates of incarceration.”

But why are far more blacks arrested?

Some researchers have found that the way police tackle drug crime almost inevitably discriminates against blacks without individual officers necessarily being racist.

The suggestion is that police departments tend to focus their efforts on outdoor drug markets in low-income urban neighbourhoods, where more offenders are likely to be black.

It has also been suggested that police stop-and-frisk tactics tend to be racially biased, increasing the chances of arrests for drug possession among minority groups.

On the other hand, there are dozens of studies that show African-Americans face unfair sentencing outcomes across a range of types of crime, not just drug possession and dealing.

The verdict

We ought to point out that most of the statistics we’ve quoted here aren’t perfect. The FBI arrest figures are incomplete and make it hard to distinguish between Hispanic and non-Hispanic white offenders.

The evidence on the prevalence of drug use relies on people being honest when answering a questionnaire.

But all of the data we have suggests a massive disparity between rates of drug use among blacks and whites, and the probably consequences.

Black and white Americans appear to be similarly likely to use or sell illicit substances, but blacks are currently about two-and-half times more likely to be arrested and about six times more likely to be serving a prison sentence for drugs.

 

Edited October 13, 2017 by Huston

[abenjami]

9 hours ago, Justafan said:

I'm sick to death of activism and politics.  

 

I just want to see football.  

 

The truth is, this isn't doing anything to raise awareness or spark a conversation, it's just pushing people ever further to the opposite ends of the spectrum.  

 

Black people are pissed because they feel like they aren't being heard and they have a legitimate gripe and that white folks just don't care.

White people are pissed because they feel like they are unfairly being held accountable for things they didn't do and instead of asking for a conversation they are being beat over the head with a cudgel at every opportunity.

 

It's pretty hard to have a productive conversation in this environment.  Unfortunately, I don't see it changing either as long as white people are okay with a commander in chief who makes racist remarks and denigrates women and black people spit on the very idea of America in order to be heard.

 

The vitriol on both sides is out of control and I admit i've gotten caught up in it myself and I regret it.

 

If someone has some ideas on how to actually make things better, i'm all ears.  Until then, can we just watch some football instead of constantly beat each other with clubs?

Hilariously, @Titansgoodluckcharm charm liked this post.  Yet, he's the main person who can't keep this off the football forum.

[ManningEnvy]

 

[Tull]

20 hours ago, Number9 said:

Trump tosses red meat.  His followers fly for scraps.  Where is the wall?  What about Obamacare?  What about all those factories he was reopening?  What countries are being charged higher tariffs to send goods into the country to offset our lost labor?

 

These football players are the sons of the soldiers who fought in Viet Nam.  Nearly half the troops that died over there were black.  They served their country.  It's not about disrespecting the flag and intelligent people know it.

 

Who disrespected our prisoners of war by saying he likes the soldiers who didn't get caught?  Where's your butthurt about that?

Of all enlisted men who died in V'nam, blacks made up 14.1% of the total. This came at a time when they made up 11.0% of the young male population nationwide. If we add officer casualties to enlisted then the black percentage is reduced to 12.5% of all casualties. http://www.americanwarlibrary.com/vietnam/vwc10.htm

"fake response"

[ManningEnvy]

Anybody else notice how The Tard Army loves to argue with each other? FistShaker has to cover all the bases.

[Btowner]

13 minutes ago, Tull said:

Of all enlisted men who died in V'nam, blacks made up 14.1% of the total. This came at a time when they made up 11.0% of the young male population nationwide. If we add officer casualties to enlisted then the black percentage is reduced to 12.5% of all casualties. http://www.americanwarlibrary.com/vietnam/vwc10.htm

"fake response"

It's probably 12.5% more than Trump's family has given to this country.

[Number9]

28 minutes ago, Tull said:

Of all enlisted men who died in V'nam, blacks made up 14.1% of the total. This came at a time when they made up 11.0% of the young male population nationwide. If we add officer casualties to enlisted then the black percentage is reduced to 12.5% of all casualties. http://www.americanwarlibrary.com/vietnam/vwc10.htm

"fake response"

Fake facts