ManningEnvy Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 Just now, TitansFan23 said: I’ve been here for years and I’m still an All-Pro. How in the world do y’all post this much. Oman must always be on his phone delivering mail… Get your tard ass on those neck boards and do what I programmed you to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 Narrator: He could not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 1 hour ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Hey guys we should talk about misogyny because a woman did singularly insane things to reach the top. That'll show them. Have the conversation. It's a good one to have. But if it's with Russini as the source then it demeans the process and is in no way slut shaming. Please explain how a huge portion of this conversation is not slut-shaming? I think that to the degree someone is willing to slut-shame this is as good an opportunity as any given her fairly objectively slutty behavior but her being deserving of the label doesn't change that we're doing it. I'm also not on some moral high horse here because I called both her and Vrabel whores within hours of the story breaking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 8 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: In what way do those circumstances being different affect the outcome? In either outcome, you are getting bullshit info that is the product of an inappropriate relationship. Can you see why I'm saying that the extra level of revulsion you're feeling is emotional and rooted in cultural attitudes around sex? Not really. I've maintained what Vrabel did was just as terrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jamalisms said: "Russini deserved to lose her job and all the blame because she lacks journalistic integrity, which is a requirement for her job. It's not about the fact that she's a woman and Vrabel is a man. It's just the nature of their jobs." "But none of the NFL insiders have journalistic integrity so that makes no sense." "Stop talking about journalistic integrity!" Iv been mostly staying on the side line with this outside a few jokes here and there but I have to ask. What is it that you consider lack of journalistic integrity about how most of these guys operate? Part of being a journalist is doing what is necessary to get the story. I personally dont give a shit if someone slept with someone for information, if anything I think that is going above and beyond for your job. The issue at hand for me is that being romantically invested in the subject that was being reporting on. The lack of integrity isn't because of how the information was gathered. It was that the story was being distorted to try and pump up someones ego or to gain an outcome. The problem is not that a line was crossed for the story. It was that they were not a journalist to begin with, they were a propagandist. Edited May 10 by Callidus OILERMAN, IsntLifeFunny, and titanruss 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 1 hour ago, IsntLifeFunny said: This has personally turned into one of my favorite threads for many reasons. But when Vrabel resigns and Jamal and Mythos are stuck trying to figure out how to support it while still living Vrabel while Oldschool becomes beside himself is going to be chef's kiss. Please explain when and how I've tried to support Vrabel or Russini. Be specific. While you try to do so please remember that I immediately recognized they were having an affair from the pictures, called them both whores while saying Russini's career should be over, and have said that Vrabel is just as morally culpable as Russini. Saying that Vrabel is unlikely to be fired is less a reflection of what I believe should happen and far more indicative of how situations that deal with competent men that are unfaithful tend to work out. If Vrabel quits or gets fired, I'm not losing any sleep because he deserves it but Bob Kraft deserves to be in jail for soliciting hand jobs from victims of human trafficking and I'm not holding my breath waiting for that to happen. Believe it or not, my life doesn't revolve around being "right" on a message board. I'm here for interesting conversations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 6 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Please explain how a huge portion of this conversation is not slut-shaming? I think that to the degree someone is willing to slut-shame this is as good an opportunity as any given her fairly objectively slutty behavior but her being deserving of the label doesn't change that we're doing it. I'm also not on some moral high horse here because I called both her and Vrabel whores within hours of the story breaking. Meh, it's been tame and fairly even. Vrabel is catching a ton of heat in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 1 minute ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Not really. I've maintained what Vrabel did was just as terrible. Man, you're really caught up in this sexism angle. Let me be clear, I'm not calling you a sexist, misogynist or anything else. We all grew up in the same culture, with similar sexual hang ups and taboos regarding sex. All I'm asking you to do is consider how those beliefs could possibly affect how much worse you're seeing what Russini did compared to the hypothetical I laid out. Again, morality aside, the outcomes are the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 1 minute ago, Mythos27 said: I'm here for interesting conversations. We are having one of those, but it got sidetracked because Jamal wanted to get involved directly. To me it seems as if you're now trying to act as if this is just what happens, which gives cover to Vrabel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mythos27 Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 (edited) 7 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Meh, it's been tame and fairly even. Vrabel is catching a ton of heat in this thread. But it's happening right? That's all I've said. For the record, Vrabel deserves way more heat and if we lived in a just world he'd have been fired weeks ago. We don't live in that world though. In this one, dudes like Vrabel get away with murder until they're no longer useful. The heat is serious so there is a chance he doesn't make it to the season but if he does and the Pats keep winning, it'll go away. If the Pats struggle he'll get a quick hook. I think it's that simple. Edited May 10 by Mythos27 oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 Just now, IsntLifeFunny said: We are having one of those, but it got sidetracked because Jamal wanted to get involved directly. To me it seems as if you're now trying to act as if this is just what happens, which gives cover to Vrabel. No way. I actually detest that argument. It bothers me when people say shit like "well this happens all the time so what's the big deal?" Again, this isn't about what I believe should happen but what I believe will happen because our society is corrupt as fuck and barely believes in anything. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 Just now, Mythos27 said: But it's happening right? That's all I've said. For the record, Vrabel deserves way more heat and if we lived in a just world he'd have been fired weeks ago. We don't live in that world though. In this one, dude's like Vrabel get away with murder until they're no longer useful. The heat is serious so there is a chance he doesn't make it to the season but if he does and the Pats keep winning, it'll go away. If the Pats struggle he'll get a quick hook. I think it's that simple. Then we agree? Something like that. My literal point to you is that this absolute cunt isn't the place to make the conversation about misogyny as it regards to other journalists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 Unfair, she was basically at a BBQ CreepingDeath 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 Just now, Mythos27 said: No way. I actually detest that argument. It bothers me when people say shit like "well this happens all the time so what's the big deal?" Again, this isn't about what I believe should happen but what I believe will happen because our society is corrupt as fuck and barely believes in anything. Then yes, we fully agree and then from that agreement bracketed off. I've said he should get fired the entire time. Her catching the bullshit while he deflects is a real issue...but in my opinion that issue should stay inside the power structure of Vrabel and Russini until properly handled. That's my opinion, and the nature of it drives that opinion. Having it get pushed into how males in the same industry operate is philosophical while using a money craving whore hell bent on shaming her partner while having a love baby as the basis. That isn't a good place for that part until the first part resolves. We are arguing semantics in many ways and agree. Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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