Titans extended most of Callahan’s staff in the summer…

[Callidus]

3 hours ago, prine06 said:

I imagine all these salaries are just wrote off as business expenses ? Doubt they actually affect her

If not she could definitely write it down as charity this year...

[croatian22]

Oldschool is the worst poster ever lol

Edited 12 hours ago by croatian22

[oldschool]

57 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

How about the fact Robinson and Carthon were extended and promoted right before they were fired? Especially Carthon? 

 

I've explained this over and over again.. Can't explain Jrob, that was dumb but Carthon got a big fat promotion as a result of the shakeup with Vrabel. Its natural for guys to get extensions in that case.

[oldschool]

1 hour ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said:

Because the team has been so well ran in the past few years…

 

you don’t fire Callahan for that one singular decision; you fire him for putting what is possibly the worst team in titans history on the field. He followed that up by putting a team worse than last year on the field btw…

 

You claimed Callahan was done when he made that bonehead decision early on in the season last year. I simply said that was silly. Callahan ended up a bad hire, its hilarious many of you wanted him gone after 1 year while also screaming about AAS being impatient. Then you used the fact she fired him after 6 weeks this year with the team spiraling out of control against her. She can't win with fans like you. 

 

I'll say it again, She has made some questionable hires for sure; Carthon being the big one. She didn't select Callahan, Carthon and Brinker did. She needs to hire better people, hopefully she has by putting Brinker in Charge of the entire football side of the business and letting him hire Borgonzi. You know the very thing you guys clamored for for years.

[Mythos27]

Guys, there is really no point in arguing at this point. Amy will continue to do Amy things to the point that even those who disagree will have to change their opinion. Just let time prove you right. 

[OilerTitanHybrid]

54 minutes ago, BeedoeLaw said:

I don't know if it had been posted, but how would ya'll like to have Amy on the headset. I know the coaches probably hate it. She makes some good points though. Shit.....she is spending her money. Thoughts?

 

 

Oh damn, she's like the Cathy Wood of owners!   Dissecting and diagnosing like a pro!  I fear now that AAS will soon go down that Irsay coke road very quickly and suddenly!

 

 

 

Edited 12 hours ago by OilerTitanHybrid

[OILERMAN]

1 hour ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said:

I think looking back the Robinson firing was 100% emotional bc AJ just embarrassed us.

 Agreed

[ChesterCopperpot1]

6 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

You claimed Callahan was done when he made that bonehead decision early on in the season last year. I simply said that was silly. Callahan ended up a bad hire, its hilarious many of you wanted him gone after 1 year while also screaming about AAS being impatient. Then you used the fact she fired him after 6 weeks this year with the team spiraling out of control against her. She can't win with fans like you. 

 

I'll say it again, She has made some questionable hires for sure; Carthon being the big one. She didn't select Callahan, Carthon and Brinker did. She needs to hire better people, hopefully she has by putting Brinker in Charge of the entire football side of the business and letting him hire Borgonzi. You know the very thing you guys clamored for for years.

Nah — I claimed I knew he wasn’t going to be good when he made that decision. That’s just one data point from last year to support my opinion that he wasn’t going to be good.
 

It’s ok to admit the team fucked up by not cleaning house last year. and that’s not even with the benefit of hindsight. You can look solely at last year and say “yeah, they should have cleaned house” without mentioning a single thing that happened since it was announced he would return. 
 

also, I don’t think I have ever said AAS was too impatient. If I have, find the post and show it to me. I am very much a “move on when you know it’s not working” kind of guy. Should she have waited til the end of the year to fire Robinson? Maybe. But it was 100% the right call bc the roster was terrible and his drafting was a huge reason why. 

Edited 12 hours ago by ChesterCopperpot1

[ctm]

The exact timing of JRob's firing may have been impulsive.  The week or day it happened is of no consequence.  It was going to happen soon and certainly needed to happen.

 

Put another way, if AJ doesn't even play that day, JRob still gets fired and in actuality, the sooner the better.

Edited 12 hours ago by ctm

[OILERMAN]

I’m actually happy with the current set up but the path to get here is embarrassing 

[oldschool]

1 minute ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said:

Nah — I claimed I knew he wasn’t going to be good when he made that decision. That’s just one data point from last year to support my opinion that he wasn’t going to be good.
 

It’s ok to admit the team fucked up by not cleaning house last year. and that’s not even with the benefit of hindsight. You can look solely at last year and say “yeah, they should have cleaned house” without mentioning a single thing that happened since it was announced he would return. 

 

Claiming that singlular decision was an inflection point is insane. 

 

I would have been fine had the fired Callahan last year. I was fine with letting him get a 2nd year for the reasons Brinker noted in his post season sitdown with Wyatt. with the benefit of hindsight, Callahan never should have been hired but thats not how the real world works. I'm sure he interviewed great, he was a highyl soft after candidate, He said all the right things after he was hired, etc.... and the team knew they were taking a risk hiring an OC who needed to grow into the HC role a bit. Brinker was very open about that. So they gave him more leeway than they would have other HCs. Again a very common thing to do in business outside of pro sports as well.

 

Callahan was so bad to start the year they had no choice but to fire him only a 3rd of the way through the season. Instead of a applauding the decision you know had to be made, you guys bitch about when AAS made it and why she didn't make it sooner all while screaming about how impatient she is. Its sad look for Titans fans. 

[oldschool]

1 minute ago, OILERMAN said:

I’m actually happy with the current set up but the path to get here is embarrassing 

 

We all agree on that. This org needs some stability and thats not just on AAS although I'd argue the Jrob, Carthon, Callahan and Vrabel firings were all 100% justified and needed to happen.

[TerryBoats]

4 hours ago, oldschool said:

 

Yes. He showed growth managing the game as the year went on. The team hired a guy they knew needed to grow into the position and gave him time to do it. He regressed in those areas this year and the team decided the lack of growth was enough to move on. Its really that simple. 

I don't see how you came to that conclusion.  They ended the season on a 6 game losing streak, getting blown out by decent to good teams and giving Jacksonville half of their wins on the year (with a backup QB).  There was absolutely no meaningful growth.  

[ChesterCopperpot1]

7 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

Claiming that singlular decision was an inflection point is insane. 

 

I would have been fine had the fired Callahan last year. I was fine with letting him get a 2nd year for the reasons Brinker noted in his post season sitdown with Wyatt. with the benefit of hindsight, Callahan never should have been hired but thats not how the real world works. I'm sure he interviewed great, he was a highyl soft after candidate, He said all the right things after he was hired, etc.... and the team knew they were taking a risk hiring an OC who needed to grow into the HC role a bit. Brinker was very open about that. So they gave him more leeway than they would have other HCs. Again a very common thing to do in business outside of pro sports as well.

 

Callahan was so bad to start the year they had no choice but to fire him only a 3rd of the way through the season. Instead of an applauding the decision you know had to be made, you guys bitch about when AAS made it and why she didn't make it sooner all while screaming about how impatient she is. Its sad look for Titans fans. 

So we should applaud her making a decision that was so obvious a monkey could’ve made it? Callahan might go down as the worst HC in modern NFL history. 
 

again, show me a post where I’ve said AAS is too impatient? 

[ChesterCopperpot1]

10 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

I’m actually happy with the current set up but the path to get here is embarrassing 

I think Brinker is a fraud.