rns90 Posted November 19, 2024 Report Share Posted November 19, 2024 1 minute ago, oldschool said: Got it. Every bad decision is Carthon's or his inability to execute the strategy outlined by his shadow boss, Brinker whom you absolve of any responsibility. They could both be wrong. Brinker for the strategy and Carthon for the implementation. BudsOilers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted November 19, 2024 Report Share Posted November 19, 2024 15 minutes ago, oldschool said: They are going to heavily scout them and take one with a top 5 pick? Or move up to get one. Provided one grades out. Otherwise they will go the retread route but the problem there is the only real option is Darnold and he'll cost a ton. That's about what I posted. They want to draft a QB. Btw, spotrac has Darnold's AAV at 32M. I don't see the Titans competing in that market or anywhere close to it. DCTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 19, 2024 Report Share Posted November 19, 2024 1 minute ago, oldschool said: Got it. Every bad decision is Carthon's or his inability to execute the strategy outlined by his shadow boss, Brinker whom you absolve of any responsibility. That's why one is the President and the other isn't. oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 19, 2024 Report Share Posted November 19, 2024 1 minute ago, rns90 said: They could both be wrong. Brinker for the strategy and Carthon for the implementation. The implementation is doing a lot worse than the strategic side. I'd love to know how the Ran fan boys want to explain why half his job, and arguably a critical piece of it, got yanked away from him. Coincidentally at the same time Vrabel was telling the world Ran was in over his head and that Levis sucked. rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted November 19, 2024 Report Share Posted November 19, 2024 5 minutes ago, oldschool said: If they aren't in top 2 I think hey very well could go after Darnold which would scare they hell out of me. They are stuck due to their blown picks at qb. If they had more ammo they could conceivably make a Carolina level trade up, not that that would be the best decision. They can’t go the Raiders route this year since they need to win. And the other qbs out there aren’t really plug and play qbs you can win with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted November 19, 2024 Report Share Posted November 19, 2024 1 minute ago, BudsOilers said: I'd love to know how the Ran fan boys want to explain why half his job, and arguably a critical piece of it, got yanked away from him. Coincidentally at the same time Vrabel was telling the world Ran was in over his head and that Levis sucked. Taking the fanboy FA side out of it , you could kind of see some of the damn moves flaming out in retrospect. Sneed and Auwizie were injury risks and Murray’s issues in space were pretty well known. Ridley was never going to deliver the ROI. Assuming he returns from injury , I have no issue with Cushenberry signing or the Pollard. It’s just that you gotta build the trenches and can’t leave it half assed like what they did at RT. And if they bothered investing in the DL, they probably would have gotten an extra sack or two or maybe they get a stop on one of those critical downs. That part , along with the Levis selection are all on Carthon. BudsOilers, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 19, 2024 Report Share Posted November 19, 2024 3 minutes ago, rns90 said: Taking the fanboy FA side out of it , you could kind of see some of the damn moves flaming out in retrospect. Sneed and Auwizie were injury risks and Murray’s issues in space were pretty well known. Ridley was never going to deliver the ROI. Assuming he returns from injury , I have no issue with Cushenberry signing or the Pollard. It’s just that you gotta build the trenches and can’t leave it half assed like what they did at RT. And if they bothered investing in the DL, they probably would have gotten an extra sack or two or maybe they get a stop on one of those critical downs. That part , along with the Levis selection are all on Carthon. Although I don't love it, the Ridley move is not horrid because he is a good player, Hopkins was always gone after 2024, and the rest of the WR group was completely unproven. Didn't care for the defensive guys they spent money on. No clue WTF they were thinking at RT or for just handing Levis the starting job after what was on tape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormi Posted November 19, 2024 Report Share Posted November 19, 2024 1 hour ago, oldschool said: Got it. Every bad decision is Carthon's or his inability to execute the strategy outlined by his shadow boss, Brinker whom you absolve of any responsibility. Wasn't Brinker the one receiving credit last summer when our fans were parading us the offseason champs lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted November 19, 2024 Report Share Posted November 19, 2024 1 hour ago, ctm said: That's about what I posted. They want to draft a QB. Btw, spotrac has Darnold's AAV at 32M. I don't see the Titans competing in that market or anywhere close to it. If they think Darnold can be another Mayfield, Smith, Cousins, etc... thats worth paying for a few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted November 19, 2024 Report Share Posted November 19, 2024 1 hour ago, oldschool said: If they think Darnold can be another Mayfield, Smith, Cousins, etc... thats worth paying for a few years. Paying an average QB s big contract is a huge mistake. It's a desperation move. DCTitan, OILERMAN, and Titans279 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1TitansFan Posted November 19, 2024 Report Share Posted November 19, 2024 4 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: This draft class could look very different in two months time if Nussmeier, Allar and Milroe return to CFB next season, it would open up a massive chasm between Sanders and Ward down to the likes of Beck and Ewers. If they don't find themselves in a position to take Sanders or Ward using a singular first round pick they need to punt on drafting a QB till 2026, they simply don't have the premium draft capital to be wasting more day 2 picks on developmental dart throw QB's. Milroe is a top NIL money guy, so it would make sense for him to return if he doesn't think he'll be a top of the draft pick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted November 19, 2024 Report Share Posted November 19, 2024 For those interested the NFL Stock Exchange boys had the QB/EDGE/WR discussion at pick #2 for the Titans when they did their latest mock draft today. titanskick8851, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted November 19, 2024 Report Share Posted November 19, 2024 7 hours ago, ctm said: Paying an average QB s big contract is a huge mistake. It's a desperation move. You think the guys I listed are average? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted November 19, 2024 Report Share Posted November 19, 2024 27 minutes ago, oldschool said: You think the guys I listed are average? You frame it as a hypothetical....IF Darnold is average. 19th in the league in QBR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted November 19, 2024 Report Share Posted November 19, 2024 9 minutes ago, ctm said: You frame it as a hypothetical....IF Darnold is average. 19th in the league in QBR While I don't disagree that Darnold is average, you will lead yourself down more dangerous paths if you use bad stats like QBR to judge a QBs value (Like you have with YPC) Unless you think Derek Carr has been better than an "average" Herbert.... oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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