2024 General Election - Trump vs Kamala Harris

[Alzarius]

7 hours ago, Titandan said:

My first main was Night Elf Hunter named... you guessed it. Titandan LOL 
Those were the days... 

 

Night Elf Hunter

 

Now it all makes sense  

 

FTH!

 

 

Edited November 11, 2024 by Alzarius

[Alzarius]

7 hours ago, abenjami said:

If you nerds want people to take your opinions of women seriously, you may want to stop posting about video games.

 

Just sayin LOL

 

Fun, very short story 

 

I met my wife in WoW. Married for 10 years now.

[Alzarius]

6 hours ago, Mercalius said:

Eh I’d probably be main tank and just demand all the best loot since it’s for the greater good lol.  Sadly my MMO days are behind me I think - just don’t have the time.  

 

 

Retail is very casual friendly now

[OILERMAN]

1 hour ago, Righteous said:

 If people have to pay for insurance, then they can pay without a law compelling them to and leving fines if they don’t, if they want insurance.  Don’t you understand that is unconstitutional? 

 

That was all taken out and not enforced anyway. 

[Jamalisms]

8 hours ago, abenjami said:

 

It makes total sense.  Think of it this way.  Let's say you have a bunch of men who say they are all going to start eating healthy and lose 40 pounds.  Then the vast majority of them only eat healthy part of the time and they don't lose any weight.  The failure at the individual level caused the failure of the movement.

 

And yet eating healthy and losing weight remains an objectively good idea and aligns with health.

[Jamalisms]

I'm going to say this conversation about women is one of those times where I'm forced to look around and realize who I'm talking to on a regular basisr ... to recognize how shallow and pathetic so many truly are ... then reassess why I would spend time talking to such people. Gonna have to expand the ignore list.

 

That said, I'm not surprised when Merc expresses douchy ideas about women. His entire plunge down the incel rabbit hole started when his marriage fell apart. There's pain involved and that's always a transformative factor. Sadly, he transformed into a raging bigot douche and that didn't need to the choice. But here we are.

[headhunter]

3 minutes ago, Jamalisms said:

I'm going to say this conversation about women is one of those times where I'm forced to look around and realize who I'm talking to on a regular basisr ... to recognize how shallow and pathetic so many truly are ... then reassess why I would spend time talking to such people. Gonna have to expand the ignore list.

 

That said, I'm not surprised when Merc expresses douchy ideas about women. His entire plunge down the incel rabbit hole started when his marriage fell apart. There's pain involved and that's always a transformative factor. Sadly, he transformed into a raging bigot douche and that didn't need to the choice. But here we are.

Maybe you should speak to women that voted for Trump 

[Jamalisms]

On the other hand, I can get behind the video game discussions.

 

... though, sadly, WoW coincides with the decade or so of my life that I spent in early marriage, college and early career ... and decidedly not gaming. Never played it.

[OILERMAN]

Merc's wife left him because he wouldn't stop playing dorky ass World of war craft and that's right before CPS was almost called? 

 

It's pretty easy to see why he looks at Trump the way he does. 

[Jamalisms]

1 minute ago, OILERMAN said:

Merc's wife left him because he wouldn't stop playing dorky ass World of war craft

 

I don't even recall for certain (though think I know) why they parted and wouldn't discuss it even if I did know for sure. But the transition timing aligns and it makes sense.

 

As I said, pain is an agent of transformation and, regardless of fault or final cause, the loss of a planned life together will always involve pain. That's true if he left her or she left him or she died or someone cheated or fertility issues led to squabbling or ... anything.

[Righteous]

No one gives a fuck about the abortion of these deadbeat mothers.  Once again, no one gets privilege.  If, as a man, I knock a woman up and say I don't want the child and don't want to be in its life, I would be told that I should have kept it in my pants.  Well, the same rule applies to women.  If you don't want a baby, then keep your fucking legs closed.  Everyone has consequences for their actions.  More so than that, women have 48 forms of birth control.  They know how to prevent having babies. 

[OILERMAN]

8 minutes ago, Jamalisms said:

 

I don't even recall for certain (though think I know) why they parted and wouldn't discuss it even if I did know for sure. But the transition timing aligns and it makes sense.

 

Uh, I think anyone thinks they know!

[Jamalisms]

8 hours ago, Mythos27 said:

I was raised by very conservative parents who IMO are conservative in the best possible ways. They were always strict but I knew I could be whatever I wanted and they would be there. They love and accept everyone but they hold true to their values and I respect that. I see a ton of value in conservatism. The way I live my life is incredibly traditional/conservative. I'm sure you'll disagree but I just don't think that the conservatives in America are in a good place. Too consumed with grievance and fear of the other. It's getting harder to see the good as this culture war rages on. We all agree on more than we disagree on. If we can keep people's dignity/safety at the forefront we can actually bring this county forward. 

 

This is a really interesting topic. 

 

I also live my life very conservatively and my personal choices are more conservative than most people I know who would describe themselves as political conservatives, yet I would describe myself as politically liberal. The big difference, as far as I see it, and the reason why political conservatism is toxic to me, is that I afford others the right to their life in the way that brings meaning to them whereas political conservatism is all about dictating how others live their lives ... with a healthy dose of feeling you should be able to treat others however you want with no repercussions.

 

For me, conservatism is about how I live my life. For politically conservative people, it's about what they allow others to do as they live their life - it's about shaping the world they live their life in. And that is a fundamental and disturbing difference. My own conservatism comes from a religious background and that same background forces me to reject such self-centered and oppressive views as lie within the center of dictating how others live their lives.

 

I've long-held that a key reason this difference exists fonds impetus in how people react to fear and uncertainty. At their core, politically conservative people want to feel and seek out experiences that make them feel secure and certain in their surroundings and it doesn't really matter if that limits others.

[headhunter]

2 minutes ago, Jamalisms said:

 

This is a really interesting topic. 

 

I also live my life very conservatively and my personal choices are more conservative than most people I know who would describe themselves as political conservatives, yet I would describe myself as politically liberal. The big difference, as far as I see it, and the reason why political conservatism is toxic to me, is that I afford others the right to their life in the way that brings meaning to them whereas political conservatism is all about dictating how others live their lives ... with a healthy dose of feeling you should be able to treat others however you want with no repercussions.

 

For me, conservatism is about how I live my life. For others, conservatism is about what you allow others to do as they live their life. And that is a fundamental and disturbing difference. My own conservatism comes from a religious background and that same background forces me to reject such self-centered and oppressive views as lie within the center of dictating how others live their lives.

Who's not allowed to live their life in the US?

[Jamalisms]

9 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

Uh, I think anyone thinks they know!

 

People can guess, sure. But, as has been discussed before, I was once close enough to have some (distant) window into what actually happened.

 

Discussing that would be like calling CPS on a Trump supporter (something I, notably, didn't do). It's a needless invasion of privacy. The point I was making doesn't need that detail. The reason for the split doesn't matter. The split will cause change. And it's a big factor in who he is today ... as far as I'm concerned, observing from a distance.