Justafan Posted March 9, 2024 Report Share Posted March 9, 2024 1 minute ago, Starkiller said: No, you don’t understand the value of the salary cap vs real world money. If they cut him they will pay him just the $3M guaranteed this year and then they will be off the hook. The dead cap will hit this year and then he’s no longer a dead cap hit next year. If they keep him they will pay him an additional $6M in salary in 2024. And not only will that $6M be added to the cap but he will still be on the books next year (assuming they cut him in 2025) as still more dead cap. I never mentioned real money. We were discussing the salary cap, and that was very clear. You were confused and are now trying to twist things so you don't look so bad. Just admit you were wrong and move on. Jesus. Who cares. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted March 9, 2024 Report Share Posted March 9, 2024 Just now, Justafan said: I never mentioned real money. We were discussing the salary cap, and that was very clear. You were confused and are now trying to twist things so you don't look so bad. Just admit you were wrong and move on. Jesus. Who cares. You were talking about the salary cap. I specifically said his salary (aka real world money). I was very clear. You just don’t know how that real world money works under the salary cap. oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Justafan Posted March 9, 2024 Report Share Posted March 9, 2024 5 minutes ago, Starkiller said: You were talking about the salary cap. I specifically said his salary (aka real world money). I was very clear. You just don’t know how that real world money works under the salary cap. BS. But I'm not about to argue with your ego. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted March 9, 2024 Report Share Posted March 9, 2024 Just now, Justafan said: BS. But I'm not about to argue with your ego. You were wrong. That’s all there is to it. Most people don’t know how to figure the salary cap math. That’s fine. I explained it. Just don’t pretend what I said was incorrect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted March 9, 2024 Report Share Posted March 9, 2024 Just now, Starkiller said: You were wrong. That’s all there is to it. Most people don’t know how to figure the salary cap math. That’s fine. I explained it. Just don’t pretend what I said was incorrect. If we are talking salary cap math then you are incorrect. Period. "Andre Dillard signed a 3 year, $29,000,000 contract with the Tennessee Titans, including a $5,990,000 signing bonus, $13,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $9,666,667. In 2024, Dillard will earn a base salary of $9,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $10,678,000 and a dead cap value of $7,792,000." https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tennessee-titans/andre-dillard-29057/#:~:text=Andre Dillard signed a 3,dead cap value of %247%2C792%2C000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshumak2 Posted March 9, 2024 Report Share Posted March 9, 2024 7 minutes ago, Justafan said: If we are talking salary cap math then you are incorrect. Period. "Andre Dillard signed a 3 year, $29,000,000 contract with the Tennessee Titans, including a $5,990,000 signing bonus, $13,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $9,666,667. In 2024, Dillard will earn a base salary of $9,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $10,678,000 and a dead cap value of $7,792,000." https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tennessee-titans/andre-dillard-29057/#:~:text=Andre Dillard signed a 3,dead cap value of %247%2C792%2C000. Well yeah, but you are acting like the salary cap is a one year thing. SK is right, we save 6 million by cutting him. Just because we don't realize the cap savings from that all this year doesn't mean we don't save it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted March 9, 2024 Report Share Posted March 9, 2024 cool, then tell me which part of what I said is incorrect… 36 minutes ago, Starkiller said: They will pay him a $9M salary this year if they don’t cut him. They are on the hook for just $3M in guaranteed money if they do cut him. 26 minutes ago, Starkiller said: No, you don’t understand the value of the salary cap vs real world money. If they cut him they will pay him just the $3M guaranteed this year and then they will be off the hook. The dead cap will hit this year and then he’s no longer a dead cap hit next year. If they keep him they will pay him an additional $6M in salary in 2024. And not only will that $6M be added to the cap but he will still be on the books next year (assuming they cut him in 2025) as still more dead cap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Justafan Posted March 9, 2024 Report Share Posted March 9, 2024 Just now, cshumak2 said: Well yeah, but you are acting like the salary cap is a one year thing. SK is right, we save 6 million by cutting him. Just because we don't realize the cap savings from that all this year doesn't mean we don't save it. Next year is a different quandary, though. It's not irrelevant but it kinda is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Justafan Posted March 9, 2024 Report Share Posted March 9, 2024 3 minutes ago, Starkiller said: cool, then tell me which part of what I said is incorrect… The part where you said they will only be on the hook for 3M. That ignores his salary cap impact and signing and roster bonuses. Callidus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshumak2 Posted March 9, 2024 Report Share Posted March 9, 2024 Just now, Justafan said: Next year is a different quandary, though. It's not irrelevant but it kinda is. Honestly, given that teams can roll over unused cap, I would argue the timing of the savings is damn near irrelevant Starkiller, and Callidus 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted March 9, 2024 Report Share Posted March 9, 2024 Just now, cshumak2 said: Honestly, given that teams can roll over unused cap, I would argue the timing of the savings is damn near irrelevant You think 3M savings over two years is no different than saving 6M now? I guess you are welcome to that opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted March 9, 2024 Report Share Posted March 9, 2024 2 minutes ago, Justafan said: The part where you said they will only be on the hook for 3M. That ignores his salary cap impact and signing and roster bonuses. I’m not ignoring the salary cap impact, I just understand how the salary cap math works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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