Charges filed against Hunter Biden

[El Guapo]

9 minutes ago, MadMax said:

And you've seen the proof, right?

More proof than 4 years of Russian collusion. Why not wait it out?

[El Guapo]

10 minutes ago, MadMax said:

And you've seen the proof, right?

In your heart, you know Hunter and Joe made millions on bribery. You can deflect all you want but you are so gullible…

[MadMax]

1 minute ago, El Guapo said:

In your heart, you know Hunter and Joe made millions on bribery. You can deflect all you want but you are so gullible…

I'm not deflecting.   If there's proof, it needs to be brought out and I'll be the first to say Joe needs to be brought to justice.  So far, all the proof I've seen came from 4chan, reddit and trusted media assholes like Tucker.    In my heart, all I know is you guys want to believe.

[El Guapo]

We will eventually see…

[reo]

28 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

In your heart, you know Hunter and Joe made millions on bribery. You can deflect all you want but you are so gullible…

 

This is the problem. You "just know" it's true. So for you it's just a waiting game for evidence. 

 

This is why you're easily manipulated. 

[Starkiller]

1 hour ago, El Guapo said:

This douchebag has no appreciable skills yet was making millions.

This covers most of Wall Street…

[Starkiller]

45 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

More proof than 4 years of Russian collusion. Why not wait it out?

There was ample proof of that…

[begooode]

In your heart?!  C’mon, man. That’s no fucking way to run a railroad or a government. Damn you guys and your “just know it,.. cuz, I’ve been sold it forever… by people who never seem to come up with the goods of their Next Watergate… but I fucking hate a lot of people, so I’ll go along with it, and if enough of us say it, over and over….”

[MadMax]

9 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

This covers most of Wall Street…

No shit.

[Justafan]

1 hour ago, El Guapo said:

I always appreciate your posts and evenhandedness .  But this is a little more than that. This douchebag has no appreciable skills yet was making millions. It was for access to the big guy and that is what this is about. Although all of the lefties insisting that we need to raise taxes and yet excuse this piece of shit for not paying any is hypocritical as shit.

 

And the justice department blowing this off while prosecuting trump for classified documents has at the very least, the appearance of government going after your opponent while trying to  ignore the obvious issues with this President.

I get that, but he's being prosecuted, so I disagree that the Justice Department is "blowing it off." 

 

I do think there needs to be some justice system reform, though, because as it stands now, anytime anyone is indicted, prosecuted, acquitted, excused, or pardoned, it has the potential of creating a constitutional crisis. Suppose they are remotely politically linked to the POTUS or his opponents. In that case, it is easy to perceive even legitimate actions as political weaponization of the justice department or a denial of justice due to the privileged position of the office. 

 

It's not very hard to see a problem in a system that would allow the POTUS to fire the man charged with investigating him, enable reckless criminal behavior with the implication of a pardon, or pardon his own people/son for serious crimes. 

 

 

I'll repeat, though. Hunter is being prosecuted. Until/unless he's pardoned, I don't think Republicans have much of a leg to stand on here. 

[Justafan]

47 minutes ago, reo said:

 

This is the problem. You "just know" it's true. So for you it's just a waiting game for evidence. 

 

This is why you're easily manipulated. 

This is unnecessary and just as close-minded of an opinion as you are accusing him of having.  This snobbish attitude is precisely why there are so many Americans who support a prick like Trump if for no other reason than to stick it to "know it all" liberals. 

 

https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/

 

I fully admit the House oversight committee is run by Republicans who have an agenda, but this isn't 4chan and Reddit.  They have bank transactions and flight records. It's more compelling than many Democrats would like to admit.  I don't think it's close to enough hard evidence to impeach Joe Biden over unless he pardons his son, and I don't think there is a criminal case to be made against Joe but it's not nothing either. Just as Republicans refused to admit Trump really was caught up with Russian interests, Democrats don't want to admit that Joe isn't a paragon of virtue either.

 

There is definitely some pretty compelling evidence that Joe and Hunter were doing things they weren't supposed to do and the entire family was benefitting financially from foreign interests.  

[OILERMAN]

1 hour ago, Justafan said:

 I don't think it's close to enough hard evidence to impeach Joe Biden over unless he pardons his son, and I don't think there is a criminal case to be made against Joe but it's not nothing either. Just as Republicans refused to admit Trump really was caught up with Russian interests, Democrats don't want to admit that Joe isn't a paragon of virtue either.

 

So far in regards to Joe Biden it's absolutely nothing. There isn't one single shred of evidence that's been presented that links Joe Biden.

 

 

[OILERMAN]

3 hours ago, El Guapo said:

 This douchebag has no appreciable skills yet was making millions. It was for access to the big guy and that is what this is about.

 

 

What was the 1.2 bill Jared got from Suadi for and does that have you just as concerned?

[Justafan]

Just now, OILERMAN said:

 

So far in regards to Joe Biden it's absolutely nothing. There isn't one single shred of evidence that's been presented that links Joe Biden.

 

 

They have circumstantial evidence, such as him flying with Hunter on AF2 to China and then payments coming into family member accounts but yes, agreed, no direct evidence that Joe Biden himself was involved with or taking bribes. That doesn't make it nothing.

 

Still, you don't have enough to go after Joe and Hunter is being prosecuted so I'll ask again.  What's the problem here?  If evidence emerges that Joe was directly involved, then go after him and I'll be right there with you.  Until then, I think it hurts Republicans more than it helps them to try and whatabbout Hunter Biden as justification to excuse Trump and family.  It's not close to being equivalent.

[reo]

2 hours ago, Justafan said:

This is unnecessary and just as close-minded of an opinion as you are accusing him of having.  This snobbish attitude is precisely why there are so many Americans who support a prick like Trump if for no other reason than to stick it to "know it all" liberals. 

 

https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/

 

I fully admit the House oversight committee is run by Republicans who have an agenda, but this isn't 4chan and Reddit.  They have bank transactions and flight records. It's more compelling than many Democrats would like to admit.  I don't think it's close to enough hard evidence to impeach Joe Biden over unless he pardons his son, and I don't think there is a criminal case to be made against Joe but it's not nothing either. Just as Republicans refused to admit Trump really was caught up with Russian interests, Democrats don't want to admit that Joe isn't a paragon of virtue either.

 

There is definitely some pretty compelling evidence that Joe and Hunter were doing things they weren't supposed to do and the entire family was benefitting financially from foreign interests.  

 

There's nothing atm. There's innuendo and implications. There is no evidence.