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Do you know how fucking stupid you sound spouting this shit right now? 

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24 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

 We cannot do a no fly zone. 

 

I mean... we could. Its Ukrainian air space but it'd probably escalate things.  Its not like it's Syria where we'd be declaring a no fly zone in someone else's airspace without their permission. 

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54 minutes ago, reo said:

 

Putin isn't all powerful in Russia. He's in power bc the oligarchs want him in power. That could change if things continue.

 

I tend to believe the opposite - the oligarchs don't have real power, they operate within the rules that Putin sets down. They are allies to Putin, ones he needs, but they don't hold power over him. They know they can be dragged away in the middle of any night should Putin wish.

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1 minute ago, OzTitan said:

 

I tend to believe the opposite - the oligarchs don't have real power, they operate within the rules that Putin sets down. They are allies to Putin, ones he needs, but they don't hold power over him. They know they can be dragged away in the middle of any night should Putin wish.

 

Yeah thats not really how it works in Russia. 

 

I'll try to find a link but no promises. Its been a while.

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1 minute ago, kgsTitan said:

If you declare Ukraine a NATO member, the next thing we'll see on Twitter is that Russia is fueling their ICBMs.

We'll be in DEFCON-2 before the ink dries. 

 

 No one is actually going to use nukes.

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1 minute ago, reo said:

 

 No one is actually going to use nukes.

 

They wouldn't use them, but they'd threaten to. If you're Russia and you have them, why wouldn't you at that point. What's the use of having them, if you wouldn't threaten with them to prevent NATO from your doorstep?

Keeping in mind that Putin is completely nuts.

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2 minutes ago, kgsTitan said:

 

They wouldn't use them, but they'd threaten to. If you're Russia and you have them, why wouldn't you at that point. What's the use of having them, if you wouldn't threaten with them to prevent NATO from your doorstep?

Keeping in mind that Putin is completely nuts.

 

Yeah but threatening nuclear war isn't exactly popular at home or economically productive. Its why the soviet union failed in the end. Its a last choice scenario. 

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5 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

Putin has the power as long as the military and his secret police don’t abandon him. Every oligarch in Russia could turn on him, and he could just have the FSB imprison or kill them. 

 

Not actually the case in Russia.

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