Starkiller Posted December 24, 2022 Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 51 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: At this point they are openly mocking Trump's own supporters Less mocking them, more conning them… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 Please let the GOP kick McCarthy to the curb after he sold his soul to get the speakership.   MadMax, OILERMAN, and Omar 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, oldschool said: Please let the GOP kick McCarthy to the curb after he sold his soul to get the speakership.    And no deals with democrats on the speakership. None. Let them solve their own mess and make it clear they can't govern. Throw them an anchor. oldschool, MadMax, IsntLifeFunny, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMax Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 19 minutes ago, ctm said:  And no deals with democrats on the speakership. None. Let them solve their own mess and make it clear they can't govern. Throw them an anchor. Problem is, their minions don't care whether they can govern. At all. reo, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, ctm said:  And no deals with democrats on the speakership. None. Let them solve their own mess and make it clear they can't govern. Throw them an anchor.  If Dems get a chance to get a more moderate Republican as Speaker, they'd be fools not to take it.  I don't know who'd that be though. Not many left. Edited January 3, 2023 by reo oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 hour ago, ctm said:  And no deals with democrats on the speakership. None. Let them solve their own mess and make it clear they can't govern. Throw them an anchor.  yup.    titanruss, IsntLifeFunny, ctm, and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMax Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 Only thing that gives me pause, if the Dems don't at least pretend to be on board, it may create solidarity on the other side to elect McCarthy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitansFan777 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 58 minutes ago, MadMax said: Problem is, their minions don't care whether they can govern. At all. That’s their minions’ goal anyway. No governing. MadMax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 Â My boy who works on the Hill in the GOP Conference says its a total shit show right now. Â MadMax, titanruss, and Omar 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 40 minutes ago, reo said:  If Dems get a chance to get a more moderate Republican as Speaker, they'd be fools not to take it.  I don't know who'd that be though. Not many left. If democrats vote for any Republican speaker then it will be spun as shared blame when they tank the debt ceiling, can't pass legislation and govern. Hell no. Starkiller, and MadMax 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, oldschool said: Â My boy who works on the Hill in the GOP Conference says its a total shit show right now. Â The speech McCarthy just gave is one of someone who doesn't have the votes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, ctm said: The speech McCarthy just gave is one of someone who doesn't have the votes. Â He knows he doesn't have the votes, anywhere from 5-20. He's just making it known he's not going without kicking and screaming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, ctm said: If democrats vote for any Republican speaker then it will be spun as shared blame when they tank the debt ceiling, can't pass legislation and govern. Hell no.  Very short sighted. Point being if Republicans and Dems worked together to find a more moderate Speaker then that speaker could then push his party to work w/ dems to get shit done on things like the debt ceiling, legislation, etc. Then there wouldn't be as much to share blame on.  The problem is I don't know if there is such a Republican. I wouldn't work w/ them for someone who would then just toe the party line and play hard ball w/ Dems on everything while caving to the extremists of the party. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 34 minutes ago, reo said:  Very short sighted. Point being if Republicans and Dems worked together to find a more moderate Speaker then that speaker could then push his party to work w/ dems to get shit done on things like the debt ceiling, legislation, etc. Then there wouldn't be as much to share blame on.  The problem is I don't know if there is such a Republican. I wouldn't work w/ them for someone who would then just toe the party line and play hard ball w/ Dems on everything while caving to the extremists of the party.  If a few moderate republicans are truly interested to passing legislation, then let them vote for H. Jeffries. Other than that, call the roll for another ballot. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 Lol   Omar, MadMax, titanruss, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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