Titans279 Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 I'll be honest, I think this is just excuse making. Those things can be unpopular (I think that they are), but it's incumbent on other Democrats to do the damage control. I feel like I hardly see them push back. If it's so unpopular (and it is), then stop hiding and do the damage control they feel is necessary. If they're too afraid to do it then it seems like that's on them. I think this is the same issue with BBB. Manchin really did tell Schumer, and presumably Biden, that he had limits and they just forged ahead trying to push the big BBB because they were afraid of telling people they had to cut their priorities to get something passed. They were too afraid to tell progressives, the specific interest groups for their pet issues that they can't get it done. It goes back to the issues I voiced in the past. People told progressives to not voice their (unpopular) opinions until after the election. The problem is that there is never a good time for progressives to push for their unpopular ideas. You're basically asking them to not be progressives though, so IDK what they're supposed to do. My advice is "elect more moderates". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Well this sucks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, Titans279 said: Well this sucks Mail has to be efficient and fast. Charging only slows things down and the replacement for batteries are stupid high Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, headhunter said: Mail has to be efficient and fast. Charging only slows things down and the replacement for batteries are stupid high Battery replacements are cheaper than years worth of gasoline. And recharging can easily be done on off hours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Blair Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Starkiller said: Battery replacements are cheaper than years worth of gasoline. And recharging can easily be done on off hours. Shhhh! We don't want to piss off oil barons. Starkiller 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jerry Blair said: Shhhh! We don't want to piss off oil barons. Or their bootlickers IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Starkiller said: Battery replacements are cheaper than years worth of gasoline. And recharging can easily be done on off hours. Ummm. The cost of ownership per mile driven is much higher than gasoline vehicle. Also the need and cost of building charging stations at USPS cites is economically illiterate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Little Earl said: Ummm. The cost of ownership per mile driven is much higher than gasoline vehicle. No it isn’t. Especially when you cut most of the fleet's maintenance costs. And most especially since electric is far more efficient than gas powered engines at low speed, stop and go operations like mail delivery. 7 minutes ago, Little Earl said: Also the need and cost of building charging stations at USPS cites is economically illiterate. You realize USPS buildings already get electricity, right? The cost to install some charge cables to where they park delivery vehicles overnight isn’t prohibitive. oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Little Earl said: Ummm. The cost of ownership per mile driven is much higher than gasoline vehicle. Also the need and cost of building charging stations at USPS cites is economically illiterate. We don’t know the differences in trucks like these, but consumer EVs save about 4 cents a mile over similar gas powered vehicles over the life of the vehicle. We should see similar if not better costs per mile for delivery vehicles. While this may not be extreme savings over the life of the vehicle compared to the initial investment, it’s a large figure across a fleet of 160k vehicles. Who knows if that would cover the costs of charging stations? It’s a cost they will have to incur at some point, unless the objective is to run the USPS into the ground and end it. That’s most likely the case. All the big delivery services have plans to start converting to electric. Some already have prototypes on the road. All have plans to be carbon neutral within 20 years. I guess they’re economically illiterate. Jerry Blair, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 2 hours ago, EinC said: What would do will all the dead batteries? Bury them? What about the environment? You can recycle or repurpose old lithium ion batteries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Pls don’t be the moderate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Truly amazing how most of you defend 2 years of disasters, stupid policies, and difficult times under this idiot mannequin. Spin it all you want- the douchebag that you voted for is the worst in history. I only hope the world will still be in existence in 24. Starkiller, and oldschool 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, El Guapo said: Truly amazing how most of you defend 2 years of disasters, stupid policies, and difficult times under this idiot mannequin. Spin it all you want- the douchebag that you voted for is the worst in history. I only hope the world will still be in existence in 24. Translation: Stop it with your logical counter points. I don't want to hear it. Here are some useless and vague insults. Edited February 25, 2022 by reo Jerry Blair, IsntLifeFunny, tgo, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Sure, sure…vague my ass. Deflect and ignore. There is not one thing better since Joey was elected. Not in international or national issues. Hard for you to keep defending this feeble idiot… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 hours ago, El Guapo said: Truly amazing how most of you defend 2 years of disasters, stupid policies, and difficult times under this idiot mannequin. Spin it all you want- the douchebag that you voted for is the worst in history. I only hope the world will still be in existence in 24. Deep Thoughts, the GOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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