The former President is stone cold stupid. Just listen to him.

[begooode]

2 hours ago, nine said:

“it was ANTIFA!!!    Oh, wait, no…

 

“They were FBI !!!    Yeah, that’s it!  Oh, wait, no….

 

“PAID INFORMANTS is what I meant to say!  Yeah, that’s the ticket ….  GOVERNMENT PAID INFORMANTS!!!”

 

After the 2020 election, MAGA leadership swore up and down that they had in their possession smoking-gun evidence and  irrefutable proof of the so-called  “massive election fraud”.  

 

They were lying, of course.  They had literally nothing…and they knew it.     To this day they’ve continued pushing this lie….and providing literally zero evidence.  
 

Then MAGA  swore they had irrefutable smoking gun evidence that proved Joe Biden was raking in millions as the criminal mastermind behind of all Hunter Biden’s sketchy business dealings. 
 

Yep….Lying again.  Of course.  They had literally nothing.  Zip, zero, nada.  Buncha  lyin’-ass mothafuckas.  
 

So now they’re saying they have PROOF that Jan 6 was an inside job…but they’re not releasing it yet.  Yeah, right.    
 

If they had proof, they would have already released it.  But they’re not releasing their so-called “proof” because….guess what?    The proof they claim to have doesn’t exist. It never did.     They’re lying again…as per usual.  
 

This is standard operating procedure in MAGA/Trump World.   When Trump and/or MAGA swear they have proof but aren’t showing it….you can just automatically assume they’re lying.    
 

And you’ll be right….every single time.

 

Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers (R) on Tuesday said he repeatedly pressed Rudy Giuliani for proof of his claims of election fraud after the 2020 election, but added that Giuliani failed to produce any. 
 

“My recollection, he said, ‘We’ve got lots of theories, we just don’t have the evidence,’” Bowers told the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack at Tuesday’s hearing. 
 

“And I don’t know if that was a gaffe or maybe he didn’t think through what he said, but both myself and others in my group … both remember that specifically, and afterwards we kind of laughed about it,” Bowers added. 

 

Bowers recalled a meeting with Giuliani and Jenna Ellis, who were representing then-President Trump after the 2020 election as they sought to challenge and overturn the election results in certain states the former president lost. 

 

Bowers said he asked the two for proof of their claims that dead people had voted in large numbers, then asked for names and how the individuals in question voted. But the two did not produce the evidence they had promised, Bowers said. 

 

Mick Mulvaney, who served as Trump’s acting chief of staff for roughly a year, took a swipe at Giuliani over Bowers’s testimony. “That, ladies and gentlemen, was the head of the President’s legal team,” Mulvaney tweeted. 
 

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3531342-rusty-bowers-says-giuliani-told-him-weve-got-lots-of-theories-we-just-dont-have-the-evidence/

[Titandan]

11 minutes ago, nine said:

 

I believe DJT utilized every resource at his disposal (legal or otherwise) to circumvent and derail the necessary progression of a democratically-held election and prevent the peaceful transfer of power as required and defined by the Constitution.

I believe Trump was exploring every legal option (not otherwise) to win the election LEGALLY.  I think he had like 60 lawsuits simultaneously at one point to make sure the ballot counting was legit and there was no shenanigans afoot.  

The rest of what you said can be tried in court and with a bunch of Trump haters (including Jack Smith), you will find fault in anything he did.  Probably convict him of another felony if they try hard enough.  

At the end of the day, Trump fought within his means(legally, verbally, and otherwise), he didn't order the most heavily armed political constituents in the United States to bring their arms to take the office by force, and he vacated his office when it was all said and done.

Everything else that you're hearing is bullshit.  Trump probably didn't know all of his options so he was getting legal advice from his advisors, lawyers, etc and explored all options before finally giving up.  

It's this type of demonization perpetuated by the media, the DNC, and then repeated ad nauseum by brainwashed partisans that is causing the division in our country.  I used to despise Obama because I saw right through his act... but once he was elected, I genuinely wanted him to succeed because if he succeeds in bringing America together, it would be good for everyone.  I'm not going to trash him every chance I get.  I genuinely hoped that Biden would do a good job.  I'm glad that the stock market is doing well and I hope that the unemployment numbers and the national debt will not bring us into a recession.  I really hope we don't go into World War III.  I really wish the craziness in Ukraine and Israel will just miraculously subside.  

I'm happy to be proven wrong by Oman because I was, indeed, wrong at the time.  And if I'm wrong again, I'll happily admit I was wrong.  But I don't see anything that's really going well with the policies that we have in place.  What really matters is that the citizens in America will have more opportunity, more prosperity, and more hopeful future. 

I wish for once, that you guys will stop nitpicking about a guy who served 4 years, did his job, and then left. It shouldn't consume so much of your time that he's such a jerk and he intended to this or that.  I really don't get it.  I feel like it's a waste of time trying to defend him... cos I sincerely don't care that much about him.  

But the policies between the two candidates is starkly different and I only see continued destruction when I see the DNC's platform.  

I'm already too long winded.  That's it.  

[Titandan]

2 minutes ago, begooode said:

 

Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers (R) on Tuesday said he repeatedly pressed Rudy Giuliani for proof of his claims of election fraud after the 2020 election, but added that Giuliani failed to produce any. 
 

“My recollection, he said, ‘We’ve got lots of theories, we just don’t have the evidence,’” Bowers told the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack at Tuesday’s hearing. 
 

“And I don’t know if that was a gaffe or maybe he didn’t think through what he said, but both myself and others in my group … both remember that specifically, and afterwards we kind of laughed about it,” Bowers added. 

 

Bowers recalled a meeting with Giuliani and Jenna Ellis, who were representing then-President Trump after the 2020 election as they sought to challenge and overturn the election results in certain states the former president lost. 

 

Bowers said he asked the two for proof of their claims that dead people had voted in large numbers, then asked for names and how the individuals in question voted. But the two did not produce the evidence they had promised, Bowers said. 

 

Mick Mulvaney, who served as Trump’s acting chief of staff for roughly a year, took a swipe at Giuliani over Bowers’s testimony. “That, ladies and gentlemen, was the head of the President’s legal team,” Mulvaney tweeted. 
 

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3531342-rusty-bowers-says-giuliani-told-him-weve-got-lots-of-theories-we-just-dont-have-the-evidence/

I have already admitted that I didn't have enough proof of election fraud to overturn the election.  

All I'm asking now is that the states do everything in their power to be sure that the actual citizen is voting with Identification and that there's no infiltration in any computer system to compromise the results. 

[OzTitan]

Whether Trump had actual legal avenues open to dispute the election is irrelevant.

 

Doesn't change what he did to rile up his crowd on Jan 6 to try and stop the process.

 

Doesn't change what he did to try and influence people to "find votes".

 

Doesn't change what he did to try and pressure Pence to reject an election that he could not prove was fraudulent, and even if he could, that is not the way to go about it in the slightest.

 

Actions (should) have consequences.

[Strunk'sDessert]

32 minutes ago, Titandan said:

I wish for once, that you guys will stop nitpicking about a guy who served 4 years, did his job, and then left. It shouldn't consume so much of your time that he's such a jerk and he intended to this or that.  I really don't get it.  I feel like it's a waste of time trying to defend him... cos I sincerely don't care that much about 

I'm already too long winded. 

 

Ok, but, like how hard would like Trump to butt fuck your wife while you watch? 

 

Would she be long winded or short winded afterward, since, ya know, you don't care much about him?

 

Don't get too mad at me. I'm just busting your balls and don't mean anything I say. Gotta give me a break. 

[Titandan]

16 minutes ago, Strunk'sDessert said:

 

Ok, but, like how hard would like Trump to butt fuck your wife while you watch? 

 

Would she be long winded or short winded afterward, since, ya know, you don't care much about him?

 

Don't get too mad at me. I'm just busting your balls and don't mean anything I say. Gotta give me a break. 

Don't have a wife but I wouldn't let anyone buttfuck my girlfriend.  
I don't really care about Trump. 

I admire him for his courage under fire and I liked his policies while he was in office. That's it. 

I'm a big boy.  I don't get butt hurt over a random guy who posts stuff online.  

[Starkiller]

59 minutes ago, Titandan said:

I liked his policies while he was in office

What policies did he have while in office?

[Titandan]

2 hours ago, Starkiller said:

What policies did he have while in office?

#1. Tax Cuts

#2. Foreign Policy - Talked tough but knew how to handle other world leaders and called out other countries for their bullshit. Other countries started contributing more to the UN and we backed out of the stupid Iran Nuclear deal as well as the Paris Climate Accord (which doesn't make any sense unless India, China, and Indonesia partake in it). Held summits with Kim Jong Un twice and crossed the DMZ both of which were historical events. Signed the Abraham Accords and moved the US embassy to Jerusalem.  Brokered the exit from Afghanistan which the following administration totally botched.  Most importantly, didn't start any new wars. 

#3. Tough on Immigration - Built much of the wall and was scheduled to build more of it in the second term.  

#4. Economy: Low interest rates, less regulations, and lower taxes helped boost the economy. 

#5. Drilling Oil: America became Energy Independent during Trump's term.  

#6. Draining the Swamp: He did not actually do it.  He greatly underestimated how deep the swamp was.  I think the next time around, he will try harder. He might get assassinated along the way but I think it's necessary.  

Those are all I can remember for now but I'm sure there are more and there are things I didn't like about his presidency as well. 

[OILERMAN]

dan you poor soul..

 

Tax cuts added trillions to the deficit and almost all of it went to corporations and  the super wealthy. The cuts for us peons expire at the end of 2025. 

 

He didn't build "much of the wall", that's laughble

 

As far as draining the swamp. The number of people in his administration that were convicted, including him, is off the charts historic. They're all criminals. The money he made off the office is also embarrassingly off the charts. 

 

Yea he wrote "love letters" with Kim Jon. He also said a few days ago if he's elected he would blow Iran off the map! No new wars under Trump. 

 

Everyone forget the tariffs that caused the government to have to bail out the farmers. 

 

The rest of the world laughs at Trump's buffoonery 

 

 

[IsntLifeFunny]

This shit can't be real. He's a teenage girl. 

 

"But first, I would like to get an apology because the last time I did an interview with them, if you remember, they challenged me on the computer. They said the laptop from hell was from Russia. And I said, it wasn't from Russia, it was from Hunter [Biden]. And I never got an apology, so I'm sort of waiting," 

[IsntLifeFunny]

Good job Republicans. You've now made it acceptable for grown men to behave like teenage girls. I thought you guys were against men being female?

[nine]

 

"I, Donald John Trump, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."  - Donald J. Trump's inauguration, January 20, 2017

 

Four years after swearing this oath,   President Donald Trump openly and very publicly urged VP Mike Pence to abandon his constitutional duty and refuse to certify the results of the 2020 election.   

 

On the morning of Jan 6th, Pence informed Trump that the Constitution does not afford the VPOTUS the power to refuse certification...and that doing so would be a direct violation of his oath and duty to uphold and protect the Constitution. 

 

Trump was absolutely livid that Pence had prioritized his duty and obligation to uphold the Constitution over Trump's scheme to remain in power...thus setting the stage for the events that occurred at the Capitol later that day.

 

Whether Trump's actions violated any laws or were legally actionable is obviously the subject of great debate and controversy.

 

What is not debatable is that Trump's actions were a very deliberate, very calculated, and very direct attempt to circumvent and override the certification of an election as defined in the Constitution of the United States.    He deliberately and willfully disregarded every word of his sworn oath in a desperate attempt to keep himself in power.   

 

When forced to choose between the United States Constitution and his own ego and obsession with power......Trump chose power.

 

And tens millions of Americans want this guy back in office.    Fucking unbelievable.

[LongTimeFan]

Yeah, no one should have to ask for an apology. The  perpetrators should have offered the apology long ago. It says more about their values.

 

It's also interesting that you take one man's quote and try to transfer it to all men. That's because you are a disingenuous pudgy balding red headed bartender who was dumped by his fiancé. 

[WG53]

1 hour ago, LongTimeFan said:

Yeah, no one should have to ask for an apology. The  perpetrators should have offered the apology long ago. It says more about their values.

 

It's also interesting that you take one man's quote and try to transfer it to all men. That's because you are a disingenuous pudgy balding red headed bartender who was dumped by his fiancé. 

You dumb Trump cocksucker. You never get tired of sucking Trump off huh?

[IsntLifeFunny]

2 hours ago, WG53 said:

You dumb Trump cocksucker. You never get tired of sucking Trump off huh?

Checks notes. Yep. This is correct.