Face Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 BTW the Giants are doing this the right way. I'm a firm believer in firing both the HC & GM & starting fresh. I also don't think owners give GM's enough say in hiring the HC, most of them do it on their own. It was time for Reese to go to. He had some very good teams & stretches, and I also liked that he had a clear philosophy. He didn't prioritize OL at all, especially LT. He's said before that he doesn't believe LT is some magical spot. He thinks it's much more important to have a solid 5 then a stud LT, which I agree with. He said that he felt teams over prioritized tackles & to the detriment of the interior, and that top QB's can mitigate iffy tackle play by getting the ball out quickly. He also didn't put much resources into backs but locked WR's. On defense he really ignored LBers, could care less about them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Face said: BTW the Giants are doing this the right way. I'm a firm believer in firing both the HC & GM & starting fresh. I also don't think owners give GM's enough say in hiring the HC, most of them do it on their own. It was time for Reese to go to. He had some very good teams & stretches, and I also liked that he had a clear philosophy. He didn't prioritize OL at all, especially LT. He's said before that he doesn't believe LT is some magical spot. He thinks it's much more important to have a solid 5 then a stud LT, which I agree with. He said that he felt teams over prioritized tackles & to the detriment of the interior, and that top QB's can mitigate iffy tackle play by getting the ball out quickly. He also didn't put much resources into backs but locked WR's. On defense he really ignored LBers, could care less about them. Good thing he didn't care about LT's cause he sure sucked at drafting them when he tried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Coughlin had crummy, underachieving teams yet pulled it together for two Super Bowl wins. Goes back to Jacksonville and immediately Jaguars are a competitive team. Mean while NY Giants are now an embarrassment and a dumpster fire. Don't want Reese, he's part of the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinx81 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 "Im going to coach as long as my keycard works" *The next day* "Damn my keycard doesn't work" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Face said: BTW the Giants are doing this the right way. I'm a firm believer in firing both the HC & GM & starting fresh. I also don't think owners give GM's enough say in hiring the HC, most of them do it on their own. It was time for Reese to go to. He had some very good teams & stretches, and I also liked that he had a clear philosophy. He didn't prioritize OL at all, especially LT. He's said before that he doesn't believe LT is some magical spot. He thinks it's much more important to have a solid 5 then a stud LT, which I agree with. He said that he felt teams over prioritized tackles & to the detriment of the interior, and that top QB's can mitigate iffy tackle play by getting the ball out quickly. He also didn't put much resources into backs but locked WR's. On defense he really ignored LBers, could care less about them. you loved his approach in FA though. How did that work out? lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 44 minutes ago, oldschool said: you loved his approach in FA though. How did that work out? lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRT Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 In true @tgo fashion, the Giants make Jeff Fisher the new GM/HC. This should cement his legacy as the coach with the most wins ever with an overall losing record. There I said it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btowner Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 It's kind of ironic that McAdoo probably got the HC job because of his work with Manning and gets fired because of Manning. By the way, when you look at McAdoo's resume, it's pretty weak. He's never been a HC at any level. He was the Packers TE coach for 5 seasons and their QB coach for only 2 seasons. He then moved on to the Giants as OC for two seasons and then HC. Talk about fast track. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 I'm with oldschool, the owner saw the backlash and is trying to save face. No way the owner doesn't have a hand in this benching. He also said a few weeks ago they were scouting QBs in the draft Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 9 hours ago, oldschool said: you loved his approach in FA though. How did that work out? lol Um, pretty damn good. The defense went from 2nd worst in 2015 to 2nd best in 2016. That's in both points given up & DVOA. They went from 6-10 to 11-5. A resounding success. He couldn't help all the injuries this year, or the coach losing the team. I also praised Jax's FA, which obviously was a huge hit. FA works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBukafax Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Y'all are going to laugh at this. For the longest time I thought it was Floyd Reese who was there GM. I was always confused as to why he did those radio shows lmfao. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 17 hours ago, Face said: BTW the Giants are doing this the right way. I'm a firm believer in firing both the HC & GM & starting fresh. I also don't think owners give GM's enough say in hiring the HC, most of them do it on their own. It was time for Reese to go to. He had some very good teams & stretches, and I also liked that he had a clear philosophy. He didn't prioritize OL at all, especially LT. He's said before that he doesn't believe LT is some magical spot. He thinks it's much more important to have a solid 5 then a stud LT, which I agree with. He said that he felt teams over prioritized tackles & to the detriment of the interior, and that top QB's can mitigate iffy tackle play by getting the ball out quickly. He also didn't put much resources into backs but locked WR's. On defense he really ignored LBers, could care less about them. They should have fired Reese last year when they fired Coughlin. Bring in a fresh GM and let him pick the new HC as you said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Justafan said: They should have fired Reese last year when they fired Coughlin. Bring in a fresh GM and let him pick the new HC as you said. Or maybe they should have fired Reese, promoted Coughlin, and let Coughlin hire a younger coach Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 3 hours ago, patsplat said: Or maybe they should have fired Reese, promoted Coughlin, and let Coughlin hire a younger coach Coughlin is workable as more of an overseer guy, but not an actual GM. Personally, I'm not a fan of the "football czar" model at all though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 I noticed today that since the regular season started, another scouting change has occurred even though it hasn't been reported yet. Phil Neri, who was a long time scout and was one of the two national scouts alongside newly promoted Brandon Taylor, is no longer associated with the team. So there would appear to be a national scout vacancy, and none of the current regional scouts would seem to fit the bill as a replacement as they're either too inexperienced or just started with the team this offseason. I wouldn't be surprised to see someone like Jerry Reese (as @mctitan53 mentioned) or another jettisoned high ranking personnel exec take this sort of position, esp with Reese's ties to TN and JRob. My guess is that Cowden and Salge have split up these responsibilities in the interim, but I've reached out to PK for more info on this since nothing has been reported. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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