TerryBoats Posted yesterday at 09:41 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:41 AM 1 hour ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: And some here want to pump all the premium resources into the defense this offseason. And no I wouldn't draft a WR in the top 5 of the 2026 Draft but I would if we traded down far enough or in the 2nd round. Talent isn't the reason that the Browns and Jets are blowing us out of the water in terms of TDs. But looking at this chart, it would definitely be unwise to hire Atlanta's OC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted yesterday at 11:54 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:54 AM 3 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: And some here want to pump all the premium resources into the defense this offseason. And no I wouldn't draft a WR in the top 5 of the 2026 Draft but I would if we traded down far enough or in the 2nd round. As bad as the offense has been, are they as far away from being decent/good as the defense is? Maybe the biggest need on offense right now is just Ward making a leap. There are still 10 games left. If the offense is still looking like the 2nd half against the Pats then maybe you go halfsies. But if it starts really clicking for Ward and we start looking more like we did in the first half against the Pats you think maybe we can afford to wait until 27 to load up on O? How many day 1 & 2 picks are you expecting them to have? How many times could they realistically trade down? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted yesterday at 12:05 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:05 PM 5 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: How many day 1 & 2 picks are you expecting them to have? How many times could they realistically trade down? Depends on how willing you are to pass up premium talent to pick up capital. If you really work it and take a bunch of seemingly ok not great trade backs you could end up with quite a few extra picks. Would you rather have.... Pick 1, 33 and 65 Picks 15, 33, 47, 65, and some future stuff Picks 28, 33, 50, 60, 65, 80 and some future stuff. Just spit balling, i didnt even look at the trade chart as a guide, just an example. You could in theory pull off some draft simulator type stuff if you were willing to take less aggressive trade backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted yesterday at 12:09 PM Author Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:09 PM 1 minute ago, NashvilleNinja said: As bad as the offense has been, are they as far away from being decent/good as the defense is? Maybe the biggest need on offense right now is just Ward making a leap. There are still 10 games left. If the offense is still looking like the 2nd half against the Pats then maybe you go halfsies. But if it starts really clicking for Ward and we start looking more like we did in the first half against the Pats you think maybe we can afford to wait until 27 to load up on O? How many day 1 & 2 picks are you expecting them to have? How many times could they realistically trade down? Right now this team is tracking towards being the worst scoring offense in the NFL since 2012 and they have a 1st overall pick QB who is drowning in a sea of ineptitude around him. I think most reasonable people can see Ridley and Pollard are going to be released this offseason and Okonkwo will either be traded in the next week and half or be allowed to walk in March. That leaves the projected skill position group under contract RB - Spears, Mullings TE - Helm, Martin-Robinson WR - Ayomanor, Dike If you think Brinker/Borgonzi whose job security is tied to the development of Ward aren't going to plough significant resources into the offense I don't know what to tell you. That doesn't mean the first round pick wherever it ends up falling has to be an offensive player but this new regime is not going to throw Ward to wolves with the worst offensive skill position group in the NFL. Mythos27, IsntLifeFunny, Callidus, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted yesterday at 12:36 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:36 PM 10 minutes ago, Callidus said: Depends on how willing you are to pass up premium talent to pick up capital. If you really work it and take a bunch of seemingly ok not great trade backs you could end up with quite a few extra picks. Would you rather have.... Pick 1, 33 and 65 Picks 15, 33, 47, 65, and some future stuff Picks 28, 33, 50, 60, 65, 80 and some future stuff. Just spit balling, i didnt even look at the trade chart as a guide, just an example. You could in theory pull off some draft simulator type stuff if you were willing to take less aggressive trade backs. 9 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Right now this team is tracking towards being the worst scoring offense in the NFL since 2012 and they have a 1st overall pick QB who is drowning in a sea of ineptitude around him. I think most reasonable people can see Ridley and Pollard are going to be released this offseason and Okonkwo will either be traded in the next week and half or be allowed to walk in March. That leaves the projected skill position group under contract RB - Spears, Mullings TE - Helm, Martin-Robinson WR - Ayomanor, Dike If you think Brinker/Borgonzi whose job security is tied to the development of Ward aren't going to plough significant resources into the offense I don't know what to tell you. That doesn't mean the first round pick wherever it ends up falling has to be an offensive player but this new regime is not going to throw Ward to wolves with the worst offensive skill position group in the NFL. I know they're not going to just let Ward twist in the wind without help. That's not what I'm saying. They'll start out with 3 picks, but it depends on 1) how high your original pick is and 2) how far back that first trade takes you to deternine how much more you might trade back without hurting your value. What if they only wind up with 4 picks in the top 3 rounds? How many of them do you think they'll use on either side of the ball? What if 5 picks? What if 6? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted yesterday at 12:44 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:44 PM 6 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: I know they're not going to just let Ward twist in the wind without help. That's not what I'm saying. They'll start out with 3 picks, but it depends on 1) how high your original pick is and 2) how far back that first trade takes you to deternine how much more you might trade back without hurting your value. What if they only wind up with 4 picks in the top 3 rounds? How many of them do you think they'll use on either side of the ball? What if 5 picks? What if 6? Depends on alot. Fa always shapes things some, who we trade now and who gets resigned between now and than. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted yesterday at 01:14 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 01:14 PM 10 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Unless McCarthy comes back looking a lot better than he did prior to getting injured the Vikings are staring down a lost season and an offseason wondering whether they made a colossal mistake letting Darnold walk. We have enough of a sample size of Darnold in Seattle to say now that KOC and the Vikings likely fucked up. McCarthy is getting a pass because of his injury but he was really really bad for 7/8 quarters to start the year. Unless he blows up, this won't end well for the Vikings. They have already lost more regular season games than they did last year and at this point, look like the 4th best team in their own division. I thought they should have traded McCarthy last year/this offseason and signed Darnold long term. When you have a QB playing at that high of a level, you lock them up and roll with them for 3-4 years like the Titans did Tannehill. The one caveat here is that KOC does seem to be able to get the best out of retread QBs so I sort of get rolling the dice but its looking like the wrong bet so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TerryBoats Posted yesterday at 01:58 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 01:58 PM 1 hour ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Right now this team is tracking towards being the worst scoring offense in the NFL since 2012 and they have a 1st overall pick QB who is drowning in a sea of ineptitude around him. I think most reasonable people can see Ridley and Pollard are going to be released this offseason and Okonkwo will either be traded in the next week and half or be allowed to walk in March. That leaves the projected skill position group under contract RB - Spears, Mullings TE - Helm, Martin-Robinson WR - Ayomanor, Dike If you think Brinker/Borgonzi whose job security is tied to the development of Ward aren't going to plough significant resources into the offense I don't know what to tell you. That doesn't mean the first round pick wherever it ends up falling has to be an offensive player but this new regime is not going to throw Ward to wolves with the worst offensive skill position group in the NFL. They have a very expensive OL, so they'll likely build around that and focus on making the run game far more effective next year. Similar to Robinson in his first year. WR is clearly a weakness, but one which won't be addressed in an offseason and which shouldn't prevent them from having a far more competent offense on the back of the run/PA game . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OILERMAN Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 11 hours ago, oldschool said: I thought they should have traded McCarthy last year/this offseason and signed Darnold long term. When you have a QB playing at that high of a level, you lock them up and roll with them for 3-4 years like the Titans did Tannehill. I don't recall that being your stance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 11 hours ago, oldschool said: We have enough of a sample size of Darnold in Seattle to say now that KOC and the Vikings likely fucked up. McCarthy is getting a pass because of his injury but he was really really bad for 7/8 quarters to start the year. Unless he blows up, this won't end well for the Vikings. They have already lost more regular season games than they did last year and at this point, look like the 4th best team in their own division. I thought they should have traded McCarthy last year/this offseason and signed Darnold long term. When you have a QB playing at that high of a level, you lock them up and roll with them for 3-4 years like the Titans did Tannehill. The one caveat here is that KOC does seem to be able to get the best out of retread QBs so I sort of get rolling the dice but its looking like the wrong bet so far. Didnt you want us to get jj at some point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago The team needs talent at every position. They need an elite WR, RB and EDGE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Hyperion said: The team needs talent at every position. They need an elite WR, RB and EDGE. And 3 cbs, 4 if they dont keep McCreary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, Callidus said: Didnt you want us to get jj at some point? fuck no. I've never been a McCarthy fan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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