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tgo Posted September 25 Author Report Share Posted September 25 (edited) Btw, my take is that this corrupt, rogue, authoritarian federal government should be totally shut down indefinitely. Edited September 25 by tgo MadMax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 They already fired everyone they wanted to fire who they could get away with. I was all for averting a shutdown last time because they were busy firing everyone they could. But it seems like that’s largely over with in terms of just regular workers. Anyway, let them fuck the country up at this point. Get it over with quickly and let people see what they bought. MadMax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted September 25 Author Report Share Posted September 25 1 hour ago, Starkiller said: They already fired everyone they wanted to fire who they could get away with. I was all for averting a shutdown last time because they were busy firing everyone they could. But it seems like that’s largely over with in terms of just regular workers. Anyway, let them fuck the country up at this point. Get it over with quickly and let people see what they bought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 Last shutdown it was obvious that they were going to shut everything down anyways. After voting to fund the government, Trump went ahead and defunded whatever programs he wanted. It was idiotic to cave last time. tgo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 Let them shut it down. The Democrats will own it. 1yardshort, Jamalisms, and Downtown 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 (edited) 2 hours ago, pat said: Last shutdown it was obvious that they were going to shut everything down anyways. After voting to fund the government, Trump went ahead and defunded whatever programs he wanted. It was idiotic to cave last time. At that point it would have just made it easier for him to do mass layoffs. Now that it’s already done and they passed a “Big Beautiful Bill” it just doesn’t really matter anymore. Edited September 26 by Starkiller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted September 26 Author Report Share Posted September 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, Little Earl said: Let them shut it down. The Democrats will own it. Oh boy. Republicans very obviously control all 3 branches of government entirely. The idea that Dems are going to get blamed is silly. All Republicans would have to do in order to keep the government funded is eliminate the filibuster. Edited September 26 by tgo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 1 hour ago, Little Earl said: Let them shut it down. The Democrats will own it. Didn’t Trump publicly refuse to meet with Democrats? tgo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted September 26 Author Report Share Posted September 26 It's pretty obvious that Vought and Trump actually want the shutdown so that they can transform the federal government and cut thousands more jobs. I say let them have their way. We'll see what the people think about all this if there's another free and fair election. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 1 minute ago, tgo said: Oh boy. Republicans very obviously control all 3 branches of government entirely. The idea that Dems are going to get blamed is silly. The Dems will absolutely will be blamed. The Republicans have the votes, but Senate Dems are obstructing. It would be silly to not blame the left. Jamalisms, IsntLifeFunny, and Downtown 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 6 minutes ago, Starkiller said: Didn’t Trump publicly refuse to meet with Democrats? Didn't the Democrats make a bunch of ridiculous demands? Jamalisms 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 6 minutes ago, Little Earl said: The Dems will absolutely will be blamed. The Republicans have the votes, but Senate Dems are obstructing. It would be silly to not blame the left. Yes, Republicans will absolutely blame the Democrats. 4 minutes ago, Little Earl said: Didn't the Democrats make a bunch of ridiculous demands? Such as? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 14 minutes ago, tgo said: Oh boy. Republicans very obviously control all 3 branches of government entirely. The idea that Dems are going to get blamed is silly. All Republicans would have to do in order to keep the government funded is eliminate the filibuster. The opposition party always takes the blame and in this case, the CR is clean. Also its absurd to say just shut the government down. Do you have any idea how many people work for the Feds or DC government who live in the DC area? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted September 26 Author Report Share Posted September 26 (edited) 21 minutes ago, oldschool said: The opposition party always takes the blame and in this case, the CR is clean. Also its absurd to say just shut the government down. Do you have any idea how many people work for the Feds or DC government who live in the DC area? Funding this authoritarian federal government would be morally incomprehensible. Any Democrat that votes for funding this government should be ousted. I consider anyone who votes to provide funding to the admin to be aiding and abetting them at this point. And of course I'm aware. The more people that are laid off, the worse it will be for Republicans in 2026 and 2028. This comes across as crass and cynical, I know. My brother works as a long time government contractor and is likely to be ultimately affected, and that is a tough fucking pill to swallow for me. This is a total war on democracy. The continuation of the American experiment in democratic republican self governance depends on Trump and MAGA being wholly defeated. No one of repute should be working under this president. Edited September 26 by tgo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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