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12 hours ago, Callidus said:

 

They have stated emphatically thT they want more picks, top 100 ones in particular. This would be the complete opposite of what they have said they plan to do. 

Brinker sounded a little disappointed that we weren’t able to trade down in day 3 to get more picks . So yeah we ain’t giving up picks for Hendrickson.

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Too old and declining for our team, but yet is good enough to require a top 100 pick or multiple day 3 picks? That's hilarious.

 

Realistically looking at a single late day 3 pick, and a two year extension to his current contract.

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Thumbtack said:

Too old and declining for our team, but yet is good enough to require a top 100 pick or multiple day 3 picks? That's hilarious.

 

Realistically looking at a single late day 3 pick, and a two year extension to his current contract.

 

 

 

Only a potential contender is going to be willing to invest in him

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4 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

What makes you think he would accept a 2 year extension?   Or diving into what guaranteed money he wants on a market deal.

 

It's a dumb idea.

 

Hunter signed a two year deal last off-season with the Texans.

 

Giving him a two year extension signing him through 2027 is realistic for both sides and doable with our cap situation.

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9 minutes ago, Thumbtack said:

 

Hunter signed a two year deal last off-season with the Texans.

 

Giving him a two year extension signing him through 2027 is realistic for both sides and doable with our cap situation.

Of course Hunter had concerns because of his prior neck injury.  

 

With Hendrickson, the big issue is that he'd cost a big contract after Garrett re-set the market plus a day 2 pick.  Money in theory is doable but the problem is what will he be in a couple of years when the team presumably can contend AND trading future picks when they need to be stockpiling them.  

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1 minute ago, BudsOilers said:

Of course Hunter had concerns because of his prior neck injury.  

 

With Hendrickson, the big issue is that he'd cost a big contract after Garrett re-set the market plus a day 2 pick.  Money in theory is doable but the problem is what will he be in a couple of years when the team presumably can contend AND trading future picks when they need to be stockpiling them.  

 

Trading a single late day 3 isn't going to hurt the team, that is laughable and an idiotic stance with the hit rates of those picks.

 

The front office has been adamant about wanting to accumulate premium draft capital. No one is advocating trading a premium day 2 or early day 3 pick for him.

 

Hendrickson is not going to reset the Edge market again after the Myles Garrett deal or even come close to that deal. That is also laughable.

 

There is no reason why we can't be in playoff contention next year or the year after. It's just the same pissy pants pessimistic view point year after year. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Thumbtack said:

 

Trading a single late day 3 isn't going to hurt the team, that is laughable and an idiotic stance with the hit rates of those picks.

 

The front office has been adamant about wanting to accumulate premium draft capital. No one is advocating trading a premium day 2 or early day 3 pick for him.

 

Hendrickson is not going to reset the Edge market again after the Myles Garrett deal or even come close to that deal. That is also laughable.

 

There is no reason why we can't be in playoff contention next year or the year after. It's just the same pissy pants pessimistic view point year after year. 

 

 

Why on earth do you think Cincinnati is going to trade a guy with back to back 17 sack seasons wanting a monster deal for a day 3 pick?  The very reason they are having issues with the player now is over what he wants contract wise and they aren't going to just give him away.....With the CBA they have all of the leverage as he's under contract.  

 

I constantly get amazed how this place has so many stupid people on it.

 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

Why on earth do you think Cincinnati is going to trade a guy with back to back 17 sack seasons wanting a monster deal for a day 3 pick?  The very reason they are having issues with the player now is over what he wants contract wise and they aren't going to just give him away.....With the CBA they have all of the leverage as he's under contract.  

 

I constantly get amazed how this place has so many stupid people on it.

 

 

 

 

 

The damage is already done between the Bengals and Hendrickson. If he holds out the Bengals still have to pay him $15.8 to sit on the couch.

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3 minutes ago, Thumbtack said:

 

The damage is already done between the Bengals and Hendrickson. If he holds out the Bengals still have to pay him $15.8 to sit on the couch.

No they don't.  They'll fine his ass, put him on the reserve did not report list, and he won't get his game checks that totals 16 M (he has 200 K in game day roster bonuses too).

 

The CBA gives the team all of the leverage here.

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25 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

No they don't.  They'll fine his ass, put him on the reserve did not report list, and he won't get his game checks that totals 16 M (he has 200 K in game day roster bonuses too).

 

The CBA gives the team all of the leverage here.

 

He can still hold-in and refuse to participate in team activities to avoiding most of those fines, just like Chase.

 

Let's also not forget about Ramsey "back ailment" as well that healed over night as soon as he was traded.

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3 hours ago, Thumbtack said:

 

- Bengals aren't signing him to an extension 

- Bengals aren't going to receive a premium draft pick in return

- Tennessee has the 4th most remaining cap space for 2025

- Its a huge glaring need on the defense.

 

It's laughable that fans are already expecting us to have a losing season when Ward could very well have a Daniels type impact in year one.

You are delusional across the board.

 

From your expectations of us having a miracle season like the commanders just had.  To everyone expecting us to suck since we dont expect to win 14 games..... 

 

Toss in you act like because we have money to spend we should just use it. Guess what thats what ran did and it was a giant waste of capital. I was screaming till i was blue in the fact you dont use cap just to use it, have a realistic plan, no I was told. We have the cap why not use it? it rolls over. Spend it when you should on resigning key players to 2nd contracts. Not grandpa in the middle of a rebuild.

 

Glaring need is the only thing you got right in this and hate to break it to you but you cant realistically fix everyrhing in one offseason and almost every team has at least a few obvious holes this time of year. 

 

Hell, for all we know jones plays better in our defense, Sweat makes the leap we all hope which free up jeff to have a career year and Femi comes on much fast than anticipated. Stranger things have happened. 

 

 

Tldr: Just because you want something doesn't mean its a good idea, your not 4, act like it. 

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