If Brock Bowers Blows Up the Combine...

[reo]

5 minutes ago, headhunter said:

You need a seat at the childs table, you're too small to take seriously 

 

hahaha has the "shhh the adults are talking" comments gotten to you that much? When you people start trying to turn it back on you, you know you struck a nerve. that's pretty funny.

[IsntLifeFunny]

5 minutes ago, Justafan said:

I think it was over Howard a few years back. 

Yep. Good call. 

[rns90]

2 hours ago, headhunter said:

When you have Prag, Reo, terry, charlie, bongo all come together for a point of view you just know it's a horrible take

It’s like an all star idiot convention.

 

2 hours ago, headhunter said:

Soccer is gay 

Zzzzz…. It’s a good sleep aid .

[reo]

4 minutes ago, Justafan said:

Still confused? What a shocker. 

 

always good to know which comments bother you haha

[reo]

8 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

@reo

 

Just read the evaluation and it fits with what I've seen as well. The part that stood out to me though is him being projected as an F/Move TE. I just can't justify a top 7 pick for a guy you'll consistently have to take off the field because he can't hold up as a blocker. 

 

Like you noted, if he's able to stack weight and maintain his athleticism then that could be a different projection, but still a projection. 230 is 20-30 pounds smaller than Kelce and Gronk. 

 

I will say he has similar speed to Gronk, maybe faster, and has just as good of hands as Kelce. Dude has stickum on those gloves.

 

If we draft him I want it to be a in a trade down to the 15 range giving us the ability to move back into round 1 for an LT. We have to get an LT in this draft.

 

yeah i know what you mean. they also give him some good praise for his blocking. we'll see. if BC thinks he's a dynamic player, I can see it.

[IsntLifeFunny]

Just now, reo said:

 

yeah i know what you mean. they also give him some good praise for his blocking. we'll see. if BC thinks he's a dynamic player, I can see it.

If we are going this route hopefully a QB drops and we get a nice haul and still get our guy. I would just be really surprised at 7 if they pass up on any of Nabors, Odunze, or Alt. 

[wiscotitansfan]

1 hour ago, Pragidealist said:

That's horrible logic.  An LT also should be a franchise player.  Missing there or getting an average player there is also a failure. 

Even a solid LT that is good enough to hold the position down and not be worrying about upgrading him is a franchise changing player though

Edited February 14, 2024 by wiscotitansfan

[rns90]

1 hour ago, oldschool said:

 

You don't know, the draft is a crap shoot, which is why positional value matters. Its easier to take a risk at a position of extreme importance like QB, LT, EDGE, WR than it is on a TE or an OG. 

Take it another step or angle…which positions routinely outperform their draft slots?  It’s usually not LT, CB, EDGE,QB.  I’d be willing to say there is an increase in WR outperforming where they have been taken as well.

S, G, ILB, TE usually outperform where they have been taken.

 

[reo]

1 minute ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

If we are going this route hopefully a QB drops and we get a nice haul and still get our guy. I would just be really surprised at 7 if they pass up on any of Nabors, Odunze, or Alt. 

 

Alt wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. I actually think Nabers is the most likely pick. Odunze? meh, he seems to me like your traditional tall athletic WR who doesn't amount to much in the NFL. I can see why people value him and BC might as well... but I've seen too many WRs like him fail to get excited about him.

[reo]

1 minute ago, wiscotitansfan said:

Even a solid LT that is good enough to hold the position down and not be worrying about upgrading him is a franchise changing player though

 

Sure but the argument is that you can get a solid LT in FA or elsewhere. You want a special player in the top 10. If you go for average in the top 10 then your team will be average.

[wiscotitansfan]

Just now, reo said:

 

Sure but the argument is that you can get a solid LT in FA or elsewhere. You want a special player in the top 10. If you go for average in the top 10 then your team will be average.

I’m just curious because I legitly want to know. Which LTs have come around free agency that gives the team years of service they don’t need to worry about the position for?

[reo]

Just now, wiscotitansfan said:

I’m just curious because I legitly want to know. Which LTs have come around free agency that gives the team years of service they don’t need to worry about the position for?

 

Is that what you consider average? I'll look in a few. headed back to my office from our computer room.

Edited February 14, 2024 by reo

[IsntLifeFunny]

3 minutes ago, reo said:

 

Alt wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. I actually think Nabers is the most likely pick. Odunze? meh, he seems to me like your traditional tall athletic WR who doesn't amount to much in the NFL. I can see why people value him and BC might as well... but I've seen too many WRs like him fail to get excited about him.

I don't even disagree about Odunze, but he's a much better prospect than say Treylon Burks.

[wiscotitansfan]

1 minute ago, reo said:

 

Is that what you consider average? I'll look in a few. headed back to my office from our computer room.

No. That’s what I would consider franchise changing which was my wording. I didn’t say “average”…. I specifically said a player good enough to not worry about the position for years

[OilerTitanHybrid]

I never wanted Howard back then, but am intrigued to see what a team does with Bowers.  Prag was comparing Bowers to Vernon Davis.  Looks like a lighter version of him really to me.  Bowers doesn't weigh as much and SF ended up taking a TE (Vernon Davis) at #6 that year.  Looking at both their college stats, Bowers seems better though...

 

 Bowers

 

Davis