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[Bcap88]

16 minutes ago, IowaOiler said:

 

Everyone knows Schwartz was brought in as his baby-sitter...except you apparently.  If you aren't familiar with Bowen's history here, then how about you sit this one out, kiddo.  

 

 

The Browns had a legit division (3 playoff teams + Cincy).  To try using one stat from one year to claim two coordinator are similar is ludicrous.  Here is how they compare fully:

 

 

We allowed offenses to run 82 more plays, 80 more first downs, had half as many turnovers, and the expected points contributed by defense...-69 vs. +90.  

Tennessee has a .522 strength of schedule we are acting like they played a bunch of bottom feeders all year. 
 

great allowed more plays, more first down, half as many turnovers so they should have given up more points then ? 
 

The name of the game for defenses is to limit points. Which Bowen has done effectively.

if you allow three points who gives a shit if it was done in 10 plays or 14 plays 

 

three points is still three points last I checked lol 

 

Edited January 31, 2024 by Bcap88

[oldschool]

9 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

Entirely possible. Probably even likely.
 

But there are reasons why an assistant might want to take a promotion elsewhere rather than simply take the same promotion from his current team.

 

Weaver is next in line for DC if he doesn't get the Commanders job. Wilson may follow MacDonald to Seattle as another option.

[IowaOiler]

2 minutes ago, Bcap88 said:

Tennessee has a .522 strength of schedule we are acting like they played a bunch of bottom feeders all year. 
 

great allowed more plays, more first down, half as many turnovers so they should have given up more points then ? 
 

The name of the game for defenses is to limit points. Which Bowen has done effectively.

if you allow three points who gives a shit if it was done in 10 plays or 14 plays 

 

three points is still three points last I checked lol 

 

You don't know why it's worse to give up 3 points in 14 plays than 10?  That explains a lot.  

 

Turnovers are momentum changers.

 

Oh, and as far as SoS:

 

 

 

I think most will understand that the lower the number, the easier the schedule.  No idea where you got you number from.

[Bcap88]

8 minutes ago, IowaOiler said:

 

You don't know why it's worse to give up 3 points in 14 plays than 10?  That explains a lot.  

 

Turnovers are momentum changers.

 

Oh, and as far as SoS:

 

 

 

I think most will understand that the lower the number, the easier the schedule.  No idea where you got you number from.

The one they use to determine the draft order and tie breaker ? 
 

 

 

[IowaOiler]

2 minutes ago, Bcap88 said:

The one they use to determine the draft order and tie breaker ? 
 

 

 

 

Ok, and where were the Browns, Einstein?  Conveniently left them off. (Hint: the were 5th highest in the league with the other 3 teams in their division and Arizona being higher).

 

I assume you had someone explain why the amount of plays and turnovers matter?

[BudsOilers]

19 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

Weaver is next in line for DC if he doesn't get the Commanders job. Wilson may follow MacDonald to Seattle as another option.

Sounds like he's taking Orr not Wilson

[titanskick8851]

38 minutes ago, Tex in a Can said:

With MacDonald going to the Seahawks, bet Wilson is promoted to DC

 

Definitely a good chance of that happening, though I think Anthony Weaver would get first crack at it if he doesn't get the WSH job due to being with Baltimore a  few more years. 

[titanskick8851]

Also I don't see changing defenses as too big of an issue if needed. We basically have several opening starting spots, so it's not like we have to have the WHOLE defense learn something new. Most of the new additions will have to learn the current system regardless, so that shouldn't keep them from changing it they want to.

EDGE Landry 
DL Simmons
NT - ?
DT - ?

EDGE - Key???

LB - ?

LB - ?

CB - ?
CB - ?
NB - McCreary
FS - Hooker

SS - ?

 

So basically only 4 of 12 spots locked in essentially. Landry, Simmons, and Key can basically play in any defense. If they like Reese, he might be a better fit for a 4-3 type defense. 

Edited January 31, 2024 by titanskick8851

[Bcap88]

1 minute ago, IowaOiler said:

 

Ok, and where were the Browns, Einstein?  Conveniently left them off. (Hint: the were 5th highest in the league with the other 3 teams in their division and Arizona being higher).

 

I assume you had someone explain why the amount of plays and turnovers matter?

 

1 minute ago, IowaOiler said:

 

Ok, and where were the Browns, Einstein?  Conveniently left them off. (Hint: the were 5th highest in the league with the other 3 teams in their division and Arizona being higher).

 

I assume you had someone explain why the amount of plays and turnovers matter?

Listen you pesticide licking mouth breather.

 

the titans defense was on the field for more plays and allowed the same amount of points as the browns while

playing relatively the same difficult schedule while trotting out practice squad/6th round fodders. You can sit here and cry about the defense but they done more with less and if you can’t realize that then you are truly one chromosome short 

[IowaOiler]

1 minute ago, Bcap88 said:

 

Listen you pesticide licking mouth breather.

 

the titans defense was on the field for more plays and allowed the same amount of points as the browns while

playing relatively the same difficult schedule while trotting out practice squad/6th round fodders. You can sit here and cry about the defense but they done more with less and if you can’t realize that then you are truly one chromosome short 

 

Lol...I bet looking at more than one stat is difficult for you. 

 

I'd say you should have your dad explain it to you, but he probably left a long time ago.  

[Bcap88]

3 minutes ago, IowaOiler said:

 

Lol...I bet looking at more than one stat is difficult for you. 

 

I'd say you should have your dad explain it to you, but he probably left a long time ago.  

Your right he left to go bang your mom and came out with you. 
 

The one stat that matters is ppg. Like I said 3 points is still 3 points 

[Callidus]

31 minutes ago, IowaOiler said:

 

You don't know why it's worse to give up 3 points in 14 plays than 10?  That explains a lot.  

 

Turnovers are momentum changers.

 

Oh, and as far as SoS:

 

 

 

I think most will understand that the lower the number, the easier the schedule.  No idea where you got you number from.

In his defense how many plays a defense is on the field isn't always indicative of how well they are doing. Our offense was dog shit so they would be on the field more.

[Bcap88]

Just now, Callidus said:

In his defense how many plays a defense is on the field isn't always indicative of how well they are doing. Our offense was dog shit so they would be on the field more.

Bingo 

[Face]

6 hours ago, IrishTitansFan said:

So the Titans defense that you just wrote a short novel about in 2019 averaged slightly less PPG allowed than the below average 2023 defense? Strange argument given the points is how you are judging defenses

If you actually read said novel you’d know that I was comparing Pees ‘19 defense to Bowen’s ‘20 version where they gave up 108 more points & were historically awful on 3rd down.  Actually Pees 2018 defense barely gave up 300 points on the year. 303 to be exact. So 303, 331, to 439 in ‘20 with Bowen.

 

The defense was fairly solid this year, I was a bit harsh on the ‘23 version. Especially late season with all the different faces due to injuries. But the ‘20 defense was utterly horrific & coordinated terribly. Whatever, we all have our opinions. It kept, I’ll be disappointed. 
 

I also wonder about chemistry or some potential awkwardness being how close Bowen was with Vrabel. It obviously got fairly acrimonious this season & a clean break his “guys” might be best.

[Bcap88]

4 minutes ago, Face said:

If you actually read said novel you’d know that I was comparing Pees ‘19 defense to Bowen’s ‘20 version where they gave up 108 more points & were historically awful on 3rd down.  Actually Pees 2018 defense barely gave up 300 points on the year. 303 to be exact. So 303, 331, to 439 in ‘20 with Bowen.

 

The defense was fairly solid this year, I was a bit harsh on the ‘23 version. Especially late season with all the different faces due to injuries. But the ‘20 defense was utterly horrific & coordinated terribly. Whatever, we all have our opinions. It kept, I’ll be disappointed. 
 

I also wonder about chemistry or some potential awkwardness being how close Bowen was with Vrabel. It obviously got fairly acrimonious this season & a clean break his “guys” might be best.

That was also the year that Vrabel refused to name a coordinator so who knows how much of it was Vrabel

 

if I remember correctly Bowen was doing DC duties along with positional coaching duties which may have been to much on his plate as a first time DC