Titans 2023 Training Camp Discussion

[Mythos27]

4 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

The Titans don't want to "move on" from Tannehill. They want a young QB developing and ready to take over when they do have to move on from Tannehill. Big difference. GB did the same thing and Rodgers was back to back MVP

 

That doesn't look to be close to happening any time soon. 

And that's bad. Now we're left to praying to God Tannehill can give us another two seasons of high level play at/above age 35. Ideally for the Titans franchise, Levis would've been good enough to force a QB controversy. Those young QBs that come in and immediately push establish starters often turn out to be great. 

[VaTitan]

2 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

Only someone with an agenda can't see that none of those draft picks say anything about Tannehill's current performance but rather him having to be replaced EVENTUALLY. Your problem, as a Tannehill hater, is that Tannehill being replaced eventually does nothing to substantiate your stance that they Titans don't think he's good enough NOW and are trying to replace him NOW.  They've drafted two young QBs with pretty early early picks and guess who is still the unquestioned started that is head and shoulders above them both? Oh yeah, Tannehill 

Eventually?  You realize Tanny’s contact ends after this year don’t you?

[Mythos27]

Just now, VaTitan said:

Eventually?  You realize Tanny’s contact ends after this year don’t you?

You realize that they can control Tannehill easily for two more years with the tag if they need to don't you? It doesn't matter if eventually is next season or the one after that. Either way, drafting Willis and Levis was preparing for the future, not because Tannehill isn't good enough now. 

[OILERMAN]

3 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

And that's bad. Now we're left to praying to God Tannehill can give us another two seasons of high level play at/above age 35. 

 

We could have stocked up young draft picks at other positions and still be needing a RT replacement, like we very likely do right now. 

 

But I think Tannehill could play another 3 years

[Mythos27]

Just now, OILERMAN said:

 

We could have stocked up young draft picks at other positions and still be needing a RT replacement, like we very likely do right now. 

 

But I think Tannehill could play another 3 years

Hope you're right because I'm not convinced the heir apparent is on the roster. We'll see about Levis though; it's still early with him. 

[socaltitan]

23 minutes ago, Justafan said:

 

 

Most of the conjecture about next season is a completely fabricated projection based on faulty assumptions.  There is a good chance the Titans won't know what they want to do at QB next season until well after this season is over.  

I agree. Ran is leaving it open. It might be Levis. It might not be. Could be Tannehill or maybe not. It will depend on how this season plays out. If this team is picking top 5, then clearly things went terribly. Either Tannehill is out for the season early or is extremely ineffective. Then you're likely weighing the possible QB options in the top 5 v. Levis's development. 

 

Or if Tanny stays healthy, plays really well, and this team makes the playoffs, I'd say there's a fair chance he's the starter in 24. Unless they really love what they're seeing out of Levis at the end of the season. Nothing is set in stone at this time and I believe Ran intended to do it that way.

[Starkiller]

1 hour ago, IowaOiler said:

 

I agree to a point, and will give examples in the hopes this won't devolve into right/left talking points.  The Biden laptop was labeled 'misinformation' when it was true and many knew it to be true while labeling it that.  

There’s an entire thread on the politics forum about why the laptop story was in fact misinformation. But I see no reason to bring that here. Feel free to go there if you want to debate it but leave the politics to the politics forum.

https://www.titansreport.com/topic/40711-chemically-imbalanced-son-copulates-father-rectally/

 

 

1 hour ago, IowaOiler said:

On the flip-slide, Ivermectin is considered an essential medicine by the WHO and has been for decades, while CNN portrayed it as horse dewormer.  That's not wrong, exactly, but the obvious intent to portray it as ONLY horse dewormer, was misinformation.  

The ivermectin story wasn’t misinformation. Not because the drug is used for more than just deworming horses but because nuts were claiming it was a valid Covid treatment when it clearly was not. The anti-science nuts got mocked far and wide for taking a horse dewormer but the news was about how it didn’t treat Covid. 

 

 

1 hour ago, IowaOiler said:

I agree about people not being discerning enough, but disagree with it being the responsibility of anyone else to discern for them.  There are people on both sides that refuse to leave their echo chambers or consider things from the other side.  I think it's harder for people on the right to stay within that echo chamber since Hollywood, music, and even sports, tend to lean left.  For the left, staying in their echo chamber is pretty easy, and I think a main reason why they've abandoned classic liberalism in favor of wokeism.  

This is a ridiculous and false attempt to make both sides sound equally guilty. They aren’t even close.

[ctm]

For what ever reason, the Titans want to get a developmental QB in the pipeline.  The reason they did it two years in a row is because of Willis' performance in 2022.  No way they trade up for Levis if they though Willis had a long term future as a starter.

[rns90]

17 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

Hope you're right because I'm not convinced the heir apparent is on the roster. We'll see about Levis though; it's still early with him. 

I really wished he hadn't gotten injured and gotten to play in those last 2 preseason games.  It would give us more data on where he is as a qb.  And unless, Tannehill misses a bunch of games, Levis' rookie season is pretty much a wash.

[Mythos27]

2 minutes ago, rns90 said:

I really wished he hadn't gotten injured and gotten to play in those last 2 preseason games.  It would give us more data on where he is as a qb.  And unless, Tannehill misses a bunch of games, Levis' rookie season is pretty much a wash.

Kinda ruined the preseason for me. Spears was fun to watch but it was expected and he was also the only thing really worth watching. I enjoyed the Willis debates more than I did the actual games which is certainly not a good sign. 

[TF_Titan]

2 minutes ago, rns90 said:

And unless Tannehill misses a bunch of games, Levis' rookie season is pretty much a wash.

 

I wouldn't say it's a wash...but regardless...if Tannehill is still alive and wants to play football he will be the clear best option at QB in 2024. There is no universe where Willis or Levis will be a better QB a year from now.

[socaltitan]

4 minutes ago, rns90 said:

I really wished he hadn't gotten injured and gotten to play in those last 2 preseason games.  It would give us more data on where he is as a qb.  And unless, Tannehill misses a bunch of games, Levis' rookie season is pretty much a wash.

I don't think missing a few preseason games is the be all end all. As a fan, it'd be nice. But how he's performing in practices, OTA, and TC weighs more heavily for me than playing against scrubs in a meaningless PS game. I don't know how much you can draw from his development just from that.

[rns90]

2 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

Kinda ruined the preseason for me. Spears was fun to watch but it was expected and he was also the only thing really worth watching. I enjoyed the Willis debates more than I did the actual games which is certainly not a good sign. 

The games were sleep aids, especially the 2nd half. 

 

3 minutes ago, TF_Titan said:

 

I wouldn't say it's a wash...but regardless...if Tannehill is still alive and wants to play football he will be the clear best option at QB in 2024. There is no universe where Willis or Levis will be a better QB a year from now.

Interesting wording.  Are you participating in the death pool by any chance?

[socaltitan]

29 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

Hope you're right because I'm not convinced the heir apparent is on the roster. We'll see about Levis though; it's still early with him. 

Certainly possible. As I said in another post, I think Ran is keeping all options on the table. Could be Levis in 2024. Or Tannehill. Or someone who is not currently on the roster. We'll see how this season plays out.

[AussieTitanFan08]

2 minutes ago, socaltitan said:

I think Ran is keeping all options on the table. 

 

It would be incredibly disappointing given the resources spent if Levis is not ready to start in year 2.