Starkiller Posted April 25, 2024 Report Share Posted April 25, 2024 https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/25/trump-supreme-court-immunity-arguments-00154324 The already-slim likelihood that Donald Trump will face a criminal trial brought by special counsel Jack Smith before the 2024 election appeared to dwindle further Thursday in the face of withering scrutiny from the Supreme Court’s conservative majority. One by one, the court’s six Republican-appointed justices — including three nominated by Trump himself — took whacks at Smith’s effort to quickly and cleanly reject Trump’s claim of immunity from criminal prosecution over his attempt to subvert the 2020 election. Instead, during more than 2 1/2 hours of oral argument, the justices forecast a result that could require lower courts to spend months analyzing various aspects of Trump’s election plot, from organizing fraudulent slates of electors to leaning on his Justice Department to sow false doubts about the results. The purpose of those additional lower-court proceedings, several conservative justices suggested, would be to determine if some of the acts alleged in the special counsel’s indictment count as sufficiently “official” presidential duties that they ought to be shielded from criminal charges. Even if Smith were to win those battles, it would virtually ensure that a trial could not happen until after the election. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyitsmeallen Posted April 25, 2024 Report Share Posted April 25, 2024 18 minutes ago, Starkiller said: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/25/trump-supreme-court-immunity-arguments-00154324 The already-slim likelihood that Donald Trump will face a criminal trial brought by special counsel Jack Smith before the 2024 election appeared to dwindle further Thursday in the face of withering scrutiny from the Supreme Court’s conservative majority. One by one, the court’s six Republican-appointed justices — including three nominated by Trump himself — took whacks at Smith’s effort to quickly and cleanly reject Trump’s claim of immunity from criminal prosecution over his attempt to subvert the 2020 election. Instead, during more than 2 1/2 hours of oral argument, the justices forecast a result that could require lower courts to spend months analyzing various aspects of Trump’s election plot, from organizing fraudulent slates of electors to leaning on his Justice Department to sow false doubts about the results. The purpose of those additional lower-court proceedings, several conservative justices suggested, would be to determine if some of the acts alleged in the special counsel’s indictment count as sufficiently “official” presidential duties that they ought to be shielded from criminal charges. Even if Smith were to win those battles, it would virtually ensure that a trial could not happen until after the election. While disappointing, isn’t this kind of what we expected? Them to not rule and make it draw out until after the election. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted April 25, 2024 Report Share Posted April 25, 2024 2 minutes ago, heyitsmeallen said: While disappointing, isn’t this kind of what we expected? Them to not rule and make it draw out until after the election. They could rule at the end of the term and it goes back to DC, but it would be right in line with their actions so far in delaying things to keep Trump from going to trial Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted April 30, 2024 Report Share Posted April 30, 2024 (edited) nm. Wrong Trump trial… Edited April 30, 2024 by Starkiller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted April 30, 2024 Report Share Posted April 30, 2024 34 minutes ago, Starkiller said: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/30/trump-trial-hush-money-case-resumes-with-testimony-from-michael-cohen-banker.html Manhattan Supreme Court Judge Juan Merchan held the former president in contempt of court for repeatedly violating his gag order. Trump did so nine times in online posts targeting jurors and likely witnesses in the trial, Merchan ruled. He found that prosecutors failed to show that Trump violated the gag order in one other post they had flagged. The judge fined Trump the maximum punishment of $1,000 for each of the nine violations, and ordered him to remove all of the posts by 2:15 p.m. ET on Tuesday. The posts were all deleted before 1:30 p.m. Merchan also explicitly warned Trump that he could be put in jail if he willfully violates court orders again. people get frustrated w/ this stuff b/c they want him jailed for violating the gag order.. but this is a separate case than the other instances. Each judge will warn him and fine him after the first offense. If he does it again though or repeatedly, I 100% expect them to send him to jail. I think i'll happen soon. he can't help himself. They have to warn him first though b/c it's better when he appeals the verdict at the end of the case. it shows that the judge gave him ample warning and shows as little bias as possible. Starkiller, and MadMax 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted April 30, 2024 Report Share Posted April 30, 2024 2 hours ago, Starkiller said: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/30/trump-trial-hush-money-case-resumes-with-testimony-from-michael-cohen-banker.html Manhattan Supreme Court Judge Juan Merchan held the former president in contempt of court for repeatedly violating his gag order. Trump did so nine times in online posts targeting jurors and likely witnesses in the trial, Merchan ruled. He found that prosecutors failed to show that Trump violated the gag order in one other post they had flagged. The judge fined Trump the maximum punishment of $1,000 for each of the nine violations, and ordered him to remove all of the posts by 2:15 p.m. ET on Tuesday. The posts were all deleted before 1:30 p.m. Merchan also explicitly warned Trump that he could be put in jail if he willfully violates court orders again. Wrong case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted April 30, 2024 Report Share Posted April 30, 2024 26 minutes ago, scine09 said: Wrong case. Ha, you’re right. Too many cases to keep them all straight! begooode 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted July 1, 2024 Report Share Posted July 1, 2024 SCOTUS ruling on presidential immunity will be announced on Monday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted July 2, 2024 Report Share Posted July 2, 2024 Judge Chutkan should re-convene the case now on the grounds that none of Trump’s actions he is being charged with qualify as “official acts” of the president. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted July 15, 2024 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2024 Jamalisms 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted July 15, 2024 Report Share Posted July 15, 2024 10 minutes ago, tgo said: This was always the outcome she was going to do. And now the question is what can they do about it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeFan Posted July 15, 2024 Report Share Posted July 15, 2024 1 minute ago, Jamalisms said: This was always the outcome she was going to do. And now the question is what can they do about it? Derp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeFan Posted July 15, 2024 Report Share Posted July 15, 2024 Shouldn't the title be changed now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted July 15, 2024 Report Share Posted July 15, 2024 @tgo, wrong case and thread. I don't think Chutkan is on the payroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted July 15, 2024 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2024 12 minutes ago, scine09 said: @tgo, wrong case and thread. I don't think Chutkan is on the payroll. Yeah, overlooked the Florida thread trying to find it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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