bizzyeddie Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, TheBukafax said: 100p it would make a difference. When you conflict a defence you gain a massive edge. If we played rock, paper, scissors and I knew you threw rock 60 percent of the time, I would throw paper 100 percent of the time and win. well yes it would make a difference...shouldn't have said it WOULDN'T make a difference. but you make my point with the idea that it would give us a massive edge over the opponent. You are overblowing the effect it would actually have. I don't doubt it gives you a edge...maybe even more than a slight edge but it also come with additional risk compared to handing the ball off to Henry. And if you got 22 first down plays (I think that is about the average per game) and run 11 and pass 11 you are at 50%....change 2 of those passes to runs and you are at just about 60%...2 plays. I don't disagree with the idea that the Titans should stive for more balance but I don't think it will create this monumental change in the outcome of games. At the same time it shouldn't be ignored. Im more interested in trying to find the reason the Vrabel and JRob choose to ignore it and what they see that we don't see. Rock paper scissors....sorry but just don't really see the comparison there. Obviously many more variables in the game of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 So we believe Cossell now? Just want to keep score lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, DecepticonShawn2 said: Let me try to simplify it a little more for them Tannehill + Good Blocking + Good Receivers = 2019/2020 Tannehill Tannehill - Good Blocking - Good Receivers = 2021 Tannehill You would think this shit should be common sense. It's also a lot about scheme and how much downing runs his cluttered route concepts on some plays and according to the podcast... they limited what they allowed the QB to do on 3rd downs. I'm not sure how that compares to the Smith years at OC. Maybe smith did some similar where he dictated... but he just didnt Robiskie it up like Downing did and cut the field in half and then reduce available routes... forcing tight window throws just as much as WR talent does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 A lot of posters do not know that Greg Cosell posts here. He uses a name such as Banjo or Bongo, something or other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, BlueThunder said: Lewan gets beat inside a lot. By chipping, he doesn't have to cheat that step to the left and leave the inside open. Knowing he has help over there allows him to stay balanced. should be better a full year removed from the injury. 32 minutes ago, Number9 said: Reading the comments about the podcast, I think a lot of people didn't even listen to it. They just regurgitate their usual talking points. its weird when most of the comments arent even touching on what was said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBukafax Posted July 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, bizzyeddie said: well yes it would make a difference...shouldn't have said it WOULDN'T make a difference. but you make my point with the idea that it would give us a massive edge over the opponent. You are overblowing the effect it would actually have. I don't doubt it gives you a edge...maybe even more than a slight edge but it also come with additional risk compared to handing the ball off to Henry. And if you got 22 first down plays (I think that is about the average per game) and run 11 and pass 11 you are at 50%....change 2 of those passes to runs and you are at just about 60%...2 plays. I don't disagree with the idea that the Titans should stive for more balance but I don't think it will create this monumental change in the outcome of games. At the same time it shouldn't be ignored. Im more interested in trying to find the reason the Vrabel and JRob choose to ignore it and what they see that we don't see. Rock paper scissors....sorry but just don't really see the comparison there. Obviously many more variables in the game of football. The comparison is that a team throws out personnel and plays. If you know a team will run a certain play out of a certain formation, it makes it easy to counter. Hence if I know you’ll throw rock majority of the time, it makes sense to only throw paper. While you’ll win some of those eventually you’ll lose more than you win. Same for the titans throwing a run out the majority of the time. It allows a team to just play the run most of the time. Henry will break off runs but eventually it will fail because your success rate versus personnel and plays picked for the run will be low. This is all without acknowledging that yards per play are much lower running versus passing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, titanruss said: should be better a full year removed from the injury. its weird when most of the comments arent even touching on what was said. He directly stated the Titans only have but three receivers available because the TE can't get enough distance to be effective. Now why? Follow me. The TE has to help one of the players. Responses::We run too much. We should throw the ball on 1st down. We don't throw enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 This is four pages in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 2 hours ago, OILERMAN said: The thing about running on 1st down into a stacked box is it puts pressure on the offense Pretty much. They ask Tannehill to bail them out again and again in obvious passing downs. It really makes no sense. Plus it puts pressure on an OL whose strength wasn't pass blocking. I do think they will be better at pass blocking , how much so is the question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 6 hours ago, titaninpgh said: Are these because they don’t trust Tannehill’s field reading capacity? Because the protection wasn’t good enough to allow for those play calls? Quessenberry and Sambrailo feeling so vindicated. Lewan is playing for his job. Makes sense he’d drop social media. Lol on thinking that Tannehill might be a VY half field QB… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 Big question from me is did they simplify the offense because of Tannehill or the OL? If it’s the OL, did they do enough to improve the offense so they can desimplfy the offense this year? I think there have to be ways to get the ball out faster that don’t require relying on two or even one man reads on half the field… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo59 Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 2 hours ago, oldschool said: The part about TEs helping Lewan was really interesting. I wonder if anyone can confirm that considering how terrible the right side of the OL was in pass protection last year. It doesn't make sense to help your best pass protector with a remedial player on the other side. I said this all last year if you looked at te tape Lewan was getting killed week in and week out. He is very cuttable if he flops again this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, Titans279 said: Big question from me is did they simplify the offense because of Tannehill or the OL? If it’s the OL, did they do enough to improve the offense so they can desimplfy the offense this year? I think there have to be ways to get the ball out faster that don’t require relying on two or even one man reads on half the field… Lol. All of the VY nut swingers coming out…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, japan said: Lol on thinking that Tannehill might be a VY half field QB… At this point you have to treat his takes on Tannehill/QB's as comedy. It's that ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, japan said: Lol on thinking that Tannehill might be a VY half field QB… Even if you dont think it... if you listen to the podcast, on 3rd down, we did limit to half field a lot. 13 minutes ago, Titans279 said: Big question from me is did they simplify the offense because of Tannehill or the OL? If it’s the OL, did they do enough to improve the offense so they can desimplfy the offense this year? I think there have to be ways to get the ball out faster that don’t require relying on two or even one man reads on half the field… We also didnt have a slot/underneath guy we trusted that would help that. We chipped a lot with backs and TEs that eliminates a good bit of quick catches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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