Tracking Offensive Fallout - Week 15

[Number9]

2 hours ago, scine09 said:

It seems like you created this as some sort of horn tooting reason.

We have a lot of horn tooters.  @Jamalisms has one thread weekly, several other guys do as well.

 

#9 sucking Jamal off.

[Jamalisms]

[cenj]

2 hours ago, tgo said:

Yeah, it’s not about the stats. It’s about the massive attention that Henry draws on every play and his big play ability/vision. 

There were a couple runs today that Henry would have taken to the house. Either one of them would have ended the game.

 

This team is no longer wearing defenses down in the 2nd half; the offense actually gets worse as games go on. Add in the lack of playmakers elsewhere and you have NWI drops and Firkser fumbles instead of AJB breaking tackles for big passing play TDs.

 

And I'm glad they pointed out the stat about the shift from 1 safety looks to more 2 safety looks without Henry. I didn't like all the run on 1st downs come playoff time, but watching the OL fall apart, Tannehill lose the ball, and these hack WRs and TEs dropping passes (and also losing the ball), I'm starting to understand why A.Smith did it.

[TF_Titan]

58 minutes ago, Jamalisms said:

 

 

Added to OP

 

 

What do the numbers look like with and without Brown? It's not as simple as what they did with as opposed to without Henry. The entire offensive roster has practically been blown up.

[IowaOiler]

I will admit that despite Henry being my favorite player, I actually thought losing Henry would get Vrabel to loosen up the passing game and allow RT more opportunities, which would then help the offense score.  I don't think I could have been more incorrect.

 

The 8 games with Henry and the 6 without have far more differences than just Henry, but the stats are pretty damning, as is RTs inability to stop turning the fucking ball over.

 

I don't give a shit about all the other injuries...meathead running Henry into the ground the first 8 weeks is the reason we are struggling.

 

Is there anyone that doesn't thank the morons at the NFL for scheduling both Colts games early.  We still have a good shot at the division, but only because we played them early and own the tie-breaker. 

[Number9]

People should understood the Titan's production on offense would decline when the Best Player on the team went down.  

 

But you can't tell a certain bunch of posters anything.  They attack you by putting the lol tag under your post.  They call you a retard.  They call you a moron.  

 

What they don't do is show evidence that all the bs they were saying right after he was injured is right.  Now they say the entire team sucks, especially the offensive players.

 

Except Tannehill.

 

 

[Jamalisms]

45 minutes ago, cenj said:

There were a couple runs today that Henry would have taken to the house. Either one of them would have ended the game.

 

This team is no longer wearing defenses down in the 2nd half; the offense actually gets worse as games go on. Add in the lack of playmakers elsewhere and you have NWI drops and Firkser fumbles instead of AJB breaking tackles for big passing play TDs.

 

And I'm glad they pointed out the stat about the shift from 1 safety looks to more 2 safety looks without Henry. I didn't like all the run on 1st downs come playoff time, but watching the OL fall apart, Tannehill lose the ball, and these hack WRs and TEs dropping passes (and also losing the ball), I'm starting to understand why A.Smith did it.

 

That bolded stuff sounds a bit familiar. Here's an interaction from after the game and before I made this thread:

 

4 hours ago, BudsOilers said:

WTF do you idiots expect the offense to do with the arsenal of NKI, Rogers, McMath, and Hollister at WR and surehanded Firsker out there.

 

The run game is relatively fine.  Foreman went for 100 again.

 

The issues with the passing game have nothing to do with Henry being out.

 

4 hours ago, Jamalisms said:

Of course, if we didn't just see the stat about how much less frequently the defenses are playing single high safety against the Titans without Henry, that might hold water.

 

And, by the way, Foreman left tons of yards on the field.

 

Keep squirming.

 

And here was his response:

 

4 hours ago, BudsOilers said:

Not squirming in the least. Everyone knows the Y the passing game is struggling and it has nothing to do with Henry. The fact that you think so I was just further confirmation that you’re a fucking idiot

 

Please discuss amongst yourselves, Cenj and BudOilers.

[titanruss]

6 hours ago, cenj said:

There were a couple runs today that Henry would have taken to the house. Either one of them would have ended the game.

 

This team is no longer wearing defenses down in the 2nd half; the offense actually gets worse as games go on. Add in the lack of playmakers elsewhere and you have NWI drops and Firkser fumbles instead of AJB breaking tackles for big passing play TDs.

 

And I'm glad they pointed out the stat about the shift from 1 safety looks to more 2 safety looks without Henry. I didn't like all the run on 1st downs come playoff time, but watching the OL fall apart, Tannehill lose the ball, and these hack WRs and TEs dropping passes (and also losing the ball), I'm starting to understand why A.Smith did it.

Oh no! 
Not the dreaded Cleveland 2 coming back to get us again!

 

Sorry, had to.

 

Great points all around though

[IrishTitansFan]

The biggest hit without Henry is big plays. By a mile

 

1: At the time he was injured, Henry was 2nd in the NFL on 50+ yard TDs since 2019 behind Tyreek Hill

 

2: we saw the stat of the single high looks. Obviously the Titans are still top 10 but they’re getting less opportunities to get their receivers in 1 on 1 matchups and they aren’t good enough to get open when they do get it

[OILERMAN]

11 hours ago, tgo said:

Yeah, it’s not about the stats. It’s about the massive attention that Henry draws on every play and his big play ability/vision. 

 

So NWI catches the wide open 40yder off of playaction if Henry is in the backfield?

[OILERMAN]

8 hours ago, cenj said:

And I'm glad they pointed out the stat about the shift from 1 safety looks to more 2 safety looks without Henry.

 

It's meaningless without the context of how much formations have also changed etc.....

 

A few weeks back Charles Davis showed teams stacking the box vs Henry, then pointed out how teams aren't stacking the box and actually showed Tannehill in Shotgun with 3 WRs, were you also glad he pointed that out?

[OILERMAN]

2 hours ago, IrishTitansFan said:

The biggest hit without Henry is big plays. By a mile

 

This season Henry was 23rd in explosive runs before he was injured

 

He had a 76der against the Bills and a 60yder against the Seahawks. In his other games his longs were: 9, 11, 15, 22, 19 and 19.....

[AussieTitanFan08]

5 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

So NWI catches the wide open 40yder off of playaction if Henry is in the backfield?

 

The offensive problems are deeper than just the top offensive skill guys being out, twice in two weeks Julio Jones has been streaking downfield wide open for the pass protection to totally break down and not get Tannehill enough time to launch the ball deep.

 

 

[OILERMAN]

Just now, AussieTitanFan08 said:

 

The offensive problems are deeper than just the top offensive skill guys being out, twice in two weeks Julio Jones has been streaking downfield wide open for the pass protection to totally break down and not get Tannehill enough time to launch the ball deep.

 

I absolutely know that, pass protection is the #1 problem, followed by the skill people lack of talent 

[AJClown]

2 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

 

The offensive problems are deeper than just the top offensive skill guys being out, twice in two weeks Julio Jones has been streaking downfield wide open for the pass protection to totally break down and not get Tannehill enough time to launch the ball deep.

 

 

Pass protection could be fine if tannehill knows how to work a pocket he is given, and give himself some more time.