reo Posted September 28, 2023 Report Share Posted September 28, 2023 Jr denied it pretty heavily at the time but let's not pretend he's some bastion of truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted September 28, 2023 Report Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) A New York appeals court on Thursday refused to delay Donald Trump's scheduled Oct. 2 civil fraud trial, after the former U.S. president accused the trial judge of wrongly refusing to throw out most of the case. In a brief order, a five-judge panel of the Appellate Division, a mid-level appeals court in Manhattan, denied Trump's motion to postpone the trial. It also lifted a Sept. 14 order by Justice David Friedman to put the trial on hold while it considered Trump's motion. Friedman was part of Thursday's panel. Late on Wednesday night, the attorney general's office and defense lawyers disclosed lists of witnesses, potentially numbering well over 100, who may be called to testify. Donald Trump and his adult sons appear on both lists, as do former Trump Organization Chief Financial Officer Allen Weisselberg and controller Jeffrey McConney. The attorney general's list also includes Trump's onetime personal lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen, who has turned against his former boss, and Trump's daughter Ivanka Trump, who the appeals court dismissed as a defendant in June. Edited September 28, 2023 by Starkiller reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted September 29, 2023 Report Share Posted September 29, 2023 Not a huge fan of Pakman these days. He really likes to troll but he's still a very smart creater and knows his shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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begooode Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 (edited) It's absolutely crazy that you have to pay attention and pick carefully amongst the topics for Trump's different legal proceedings. But the repubs just have their brains trained to ignore and whatabout. Edited October 2, 2023 by begooode Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, tgo said: I have a hard time believing that is intentional. I mean, Trump's best bet is a hung jury. Does any competent lawyer want to work for him at this point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, Starkiller said: I have a hard time believing that is intentional. I mean, Trump's best bet is a hung jury. Does any competent lawyer want to work for him at this point? It certainly wasn't intentional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 (edited) This line of defense , same as used in all these cases (ex: Enron) plays the blame the accountants game. But the accountants will counter that they are not real estate experts and all information provided by management is indeed management's responsibility. This is done via the letter of representation always secured by the accounting firm in an engagement. Yes, the accountants have an obligation of due care in the preparation of the valuations into the final financial statements used by outsiders, but the valuations themselves come from and are owned by their clients. https://www.accountingtools.com/articles/management-representation-letter ... In her statement, Habba attacked James for saying in her campaign for attorney general that she was going to “get Trump.” Engoron, who ruled last week that Trump and his co-defendants were liable for fraud in the attorney general’s civil case against Trump, responded by noting that the defense already tried to dismiss the case claiming that James brought it as a “witch hunt” against Trump. “I denied that,” Engoron said, adding that the ruling was affirmed by a New York appellate court. “So Ms. James’ motivations are no longer at issue in this case, are they?” ... Trump intently watched Habba as she sparred with the judge. "These statements of financial condition were current, current market value. The point is what were they worth then," Engoron said, pushing back on Habba's assertion that the inflated values showed what they could be sold for at some point in the future. An accounting disclaimer from Mazars, Trump’s former accounting firm, essentially said, “We're relying on the Trump Organization," Engoron said. "That's how I read it.” “No, your honor," Habba responded, arguing that the Trump Organization relied on Mazars and "they're the accountants." Edited October 2, 2023 by begooode IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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begooode Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 Don't forget this is the case where he pleaded the fifth +400 times. lofl https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-deposed-ny-ag-civil-probe-business-practices-rcna42355 OILERMAN, and IsntLifeFunny 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 For what it’s worth apparently NY state law only requires that 10 of the 12 jury members agree for a verdict in a civil trial, so it’s possible they intentionally chose to not have a jury trial because they didn’t think they were likely to get 3 jurists who didn’t hate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 4 hours ago, begooode said: Don't forget this is the case where he pleaded the fifth +400 times. lofl https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-deposed-ny-ag-civil-probe-business-practices-rcna42355 I’m pretty sure Trump himself said that’s as good as an admission of guilt. MadMax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 IsntLifeFunny, MadMax, Smokes, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 3 hours ago, OILERMAN said: Must be the famed Supply Side Jesus! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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