Pragidealist Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, ctm said: In her last interview, Warren explained what she wants to break up the tech giants. She thinks it hurts competition and business formation for the giants to control both the platform and the products for sale. She directly said she isn't a socialist. She said she is a capitalist who believes the markets need regulation. Although she didn't mention it directly, she was drawing a line between herself and Bernie. As in, he's a socialist, I'm a capitalist. It's a good point since they are competing for some of the same voters, but it's probably too subtle for people who aren't listening closely. She'll end up having to be more direct about the distinction. And she appears to be right. There is a slump in business formation. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/20/business/economy/startup-business.html Beto and Warren are opposites for me. I like Warren's policy ideas (though I am not sold on breaking up the tech companies). She just doesn't have the charisma and personality chops to win. Beto seems to have all the personality and charisma but I have been underwhelmed by his policy/ ideas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legaltitan Posted March 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Pragidealist said: Beto and Warren are opposites for me. I like Warren's policy ideas (though I am not sold on breaking up the tech companies). She just doesn't have the charisma and personality chops to win. Beto seems to have all the personality and charisma but I have been underwhelmed by his policy/ ideas. I know you guys are sick of me saying so, but check out Buttigieg. I find him to be a very pleasant mix of the two, combined with being a veteran of the War in Afghanistan, a guy who has been successful in the corporate world. Not quite as charasmatic as Beto, but very personable and relatable and connects, and he may be the one guy in the race that is as smart as or smarter than Warren, although not with quite her depth of knowledge on the issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Pragidealist said: Beto and Warren are opposites for me. I like Warren's policy ideas (though I am not sold on breaking up the tech companies). She just doesn't have the charisma and personality chops to win. Beto seems to have all the personality and charisma but I have been underwhelmed by his policy/ ideas. At this point, Beto talks about his goals (which almost all the candidates share), but he doesn't talk about the policies to implement them. He's got some time but it's already being talked about in the media. He's going to have to up his game and put some meat on the bones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Legaltitan said: I know you guys are sick of me saying so, but check out Buttigieg. I find him to be a very pleasant mix of the two, combined with being a veteran of the War in Afghanistan, a guy who has been successful in the corporate world. Not quite as charasmatic as Beto, but very personable and relatable and connects, and he may be the one guy in the race that is as smart as or smarter than Warren, although not with quite her depth of knowledge on the issues. I've heard a little of his comments. He's got substance for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 29 minutes ago, Legaltitan said: I know you guys are sick of me saying so, but check out Buttigieg. I find him to be a very pleasant mix of the two, combined with being a veteran of the War in Afghanistan, a guy who has been successful in the corporate world. Not quite as charasmatic as Beto, but very personable and relatable and connects, and he may be the one guy in the race that is as smart as or smarter than Warren, although not with quite her depth of knowledge on the issues. I’m intrigued by him. He does have an interesting balance. It would also be the first time I’ve voted or supported a presidential candidate younger than me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legaltitan Posted March 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 33 minutes ago, ctm said: At this point, Beto talks about his goals (which almost all the candidates share), but he doesn't talk about the policies to implement them. He's got some time but it's already being talked about in the media. He's going to have to up his game and put some meat on the bones. Agreed but there's plenty of time for this. Obama had the exact same criticisms, even deep into the primary campaign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 If we were a smarter country that cared about substance instead of flash she’d be the nominee. But it as you can tell from Beto’s popularity people care almost nothing about policy specifics and chops. People like Beto and they like they way he talks and how it makes them feel. Warren reminds me of someone you’d find out is PM of Finland or something. I just don’t think she’ll take off on a country so obsessed with image and emotion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, Titans279 said: People like Beto and they like they way he talks and how it makes them feel. Like I said early Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downtown Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Beto doesn’t even have to form his own policy. He’s doing a fine job of copying Mayor Pete at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Warren does a lot better in more direct situations with voters e.g. the CNN townhall on tonight imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 I have a better chance than Warren Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 2 hours ago, OILERMAN said: Like I said early True, but you can tell by this discussion that some people are already paying close attention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 57 minutes ago, Titans279 said: Warren does a lot better in more direct situations with voters e.g. the CNN townhall on tonight imo. Caught the end of it. Speaking style is a little hyper. Substance is top notch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 15 hours ago, Legaltitan said: I know you guys are sick of me saying so, but check out Buttigieg. I find him to be a very pleasant mix of the two, combined with being a veteran of the War in Afghanistan, a guy who has been successful in the corporate world. Not quite as charasmatic as Beto, but very personable and relatable and connects, and he may be the one guy in the race that is as smart as or smarter than Warren, although not with quite her depth of knowledge on the issues. He's on Morning Joe Wed. AM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 16 hours ago, Rolltide said: I will never vote for a socialist who totally disrespects the intelligence of the electorate and has lied repeatedly about her ethnicity even after DNA tests proved she was not an Indian. What is almost worse are her reasons for the lies. She hates what this country stands for and she hates 2/3 of the people in it. So you won't vote for her because she lied about being Indian but you WILL vote for Trump despite him lying and being caught lying about cheating on his wife shortly after she gave birth? Stop acting like character and morality matter you. Hypocrite. One person was trying to get into college to better their life and while the other was just getting strange on the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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