NashvilleNinja Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, AvgJoe said: Underwood comes across as a smug person who is not very talented at playing stupid It's the mustache. It has imbued him with an otherworldly arrogance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Did Mularkey make no mistakes in Buffalo or Jacksonville, or are you just not mentioning them so that he sounds better in comparison to the other people you're ripping apart? You should apply the same critical eye to all candidates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot1 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 There comes a point in time when you know exactly what you're getting in a retread. And we know that.with Mularkey. He's a bad head coach. He will fail. It's not a matter of if, but when at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercalius Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 A coach more proven than Mularkey? Mike Smith. Was there for the taking. Ended with two bad years, but it's obvious Atlanta has a personnel problem after watching Quinn struggle. He had a very legit window just a couple of years ago, with a lot of that same roster, that was unfortunate enough to coexist with loaded Seattle and San Francisco teams. There's also a possibility they could have kept Mularkey on staff if they would have just given him a call. No one was calling Mularkey for HC gigs. And I really doubt anyone was for OC jobs either. So, it's potentially be a TE coach, sit at home for another year, or be the Titans OC. I think they could have gotten both. Are they maybe similar coaches with Smith just walking in to a better situation in Atlanta than anything Mularkey had walked into? Maybe, but Smith's accomplishments in the league are easy to sell to the fanbase, and if this exact situation had happened, our fans could actually buy in to what they were selling rather than praying we're bailed out by a decent draft/FA period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot1 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Yes. I would have loved to have Mike Smith. He's much more proven as a winner than Mularkey is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Titans279 said: Did Mularkey make no mistakes in Buffalo or Jacksonville, or are you just not mentioning them so that he sounds better in comparison to the other people you're ripping apart? You should apply the same critical eye to all candidates. Hell, he made mistakes HERE last year in his audition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcibiades Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 6 hours ago, Bobo said: Oman was the most sensible about the current situation, not sounding like most of TR of late - overreacting, emotional wrecks. Although I'm still worried about what general offensive philosophy we'll see with Mularky and his OC choice as I'm afraid it may not maximize Mariota's potential, overall I can't believe we are as bad or worse off going into next year with Robinson/Mularky instead of Webster/Whiz. You know, lots of us said the same things, before Oman did in fact. Oman is the most memorable to most of you because of HOW he says things and because he's been here the longest. But there were many people trying to fight against the tide of anguish that hit the boards for a few days there. I'm not saying this to get credit, but as a reminder that Oman was NOT a lone voice of reason. There were many saying the same thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvyablue256 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 6 hours ago, Bobo said: Oman was the most sensible about the current situation, not sounding like most of TR of late - overreacting, emotional wrecks. The reactions are highly justifiable. We're coming off 2-14, 3-13...with a guy who hasn't shown himself to be worthy of a third chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboy Posted January 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 12 minutes ago, luvyablue256 said: The reactions are highly justifiable. We're coming off 2-14, 3-13...with a guy who hasn't shown himself to be worthy of a third chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Of course Mularkey has made mistakes. The point is his coaching is not why the Jags went 2-14 or 2-7 last year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercalius Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Just now, OILERMAN said: Of course Mularkey has made mistakes. The point is his coaching is not why the Jags went 2-14 or 2-7 last year If coaching doesn't matter that much, which a ton of people have implied....or that it's 2nd or even 3rd in importance behind QB play and talent on roster. Why didn't the Titans change, just for the sake of change, even if the replacement would be a lateral move most likely? How bad does bad have to be before purging all involved is necessary? Every year, plenty of coaches get washed away in regime changes - many who probably deserve to keep their jobs, but there's an aura of fan-service and public apology from ownership for their team's mistakes/horrid performances when you cull all of those involved. "Our bad for sucking, we hear you guys. Here's everyone's head." It's shallow, and potentially not correct, but it's the nature of things, and if nothing else alleviates frustrations in the short term. I think almost everyone here thinks our team has been bad enough for two years to warrant change simply for the sake of change - and that's even assuming a lot folks think a majority of coaching candidates are roughly equal. As a fanbase, we haven't had a legitimate reason to cheer in a long time. We have hope in Mariota, but most NFL fanbases have hope in some form. We want a reason to be happy, even if it's being naive....and we were denied that. Now, we just have a detached, wait and see, skeptical framework to look at this franchise until free agency and the draft. And even then, unless a Berry, Wilkerson, or homerun draft-trade-scenario happens - there still won't be any reason to set off the fireworks. It's going to be a long 8 months until the season starts, and it's very likely going to start with most fans viewing haphazardly and waiting for the bottom to fall out rather than viewing it as a legitimate fresh start with the potential for upward momentum. Wins will help, but even the potentially for wins is a long, long time in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot1 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 10 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Of course Mularkey has made mistakes. The point is his coaching is not why the Jags went 2-14 or 2-7 last year He was part of the cause. Was he the sole cause? No. But he was a substantial portion of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Merc, Most coaching changes are made to sale hope to the fans, it's not about their actual coaching ability Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 1 minute ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said: He was part of the cause. Was he the sole cause? No. But he was a substantial portion of it. Belichich doesn't make any difference for the 2011 Jags Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercalius Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 1 minute ago, OILERMAN said: Merc, Most coaching changes are made to sale hope to the fans, it's not about their actual coaching ability Exactly. And we've had it worse than most fanbases. If Mularkey can win with Mariota and Robinson so could Hue Jackson or Mike Smith. The FO missed an opportunity to sell us optimism and instead made 95% of a fanbase despise them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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