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Tomlin goes for it on 4th twice in OT


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I know it's tough.  I remember Jeff Reed having all kinds of issues.  However, I think it was their best chance to win even though I didn't watch the game and have absolutely no idea how much the wind was affecting kicks all night or who was dominating the line of scrimmage at that point.

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Nobody likes an armchair QB, Ron!  

If he runs it with Bell and is stuffed, he is too conservative.  If he kicks the FG and misses, he shouldn't have trusted the kicker there.  BLAH, BLAH, BLAH!

 

It's just one big repetitive circle jerk and always will be. Welcome to being a HC in the NFL.

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It's just one big repetitive circle jerk and always will be. Welcome to being a HC in the NFL.

Absolutely.  It's just funny to see people who have never even coached a little league team or strapped on a helmet, all of sudden become football experts.  The defense is not there to coronate the offense.  They are paid to be on the field too.  Sometimes the defense wins.  And sometimes it's just that simple.  This is football...not ROCKET SURGERY! :)

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Absolutely.  It's just funny to see people who have never even coached a little league team or strapped on a helmet, all of sudden become football experts.  The defense is not there to coronate the offense.  The are paid to be on the field too.  Sometimes the defense wins.  And sometimes it's just that simple.  This is football...not ROCKET SURGERY! :)

On the last play, it wasn't even about the defense winning.  It was the offense's failure to execute a good play call.  The WR was open, the QB simply missed the throw.

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On the last play, it wasn't even about the defense winning.  It was the offense's failure to execute a good play call.  The WR was open, the QB simply missed the throw.

I didn't like the call to go for it on the 2nd 4th down attempt in OT but there is no question the play was there and Vick just blew it.

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Absolutely.  It's just funny to see people who have never even coached a little league team or strapped on a helmet, all of sudden become football experts.  The defense is not there to coronate the offense.  They are paid to be on the field too.  Sometimes the defense wins.  And sometimes it's just that simple.  This is football...not ROCKET SURGERY! :)

The actual play calls are always debatable and you're right, for someone who's never done it before it's really hard to justify criticizing people who have done it all their lives.  The clock management issues, however, are easily correctable and something anyone who can use a little of logic can fix.  I am convinced that half the fans of the NFL could manage a clock better than some of these head coaches.  Or anything else situational, such as times when a FG just doesn't do you any good or when punting is a bad idea.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that when you're trailing by 6 points late in the 4th quarter kicking a field goal is probably not going to be productive to the ultimate goal of winning the game.  Nor will punting at midfield on 4th and 1 when you're trailing late in the 4th quarter.

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The actual play calls are always debatable and you're right, for someone who's never done it before it's really hard to justify criticizing people who have done it all their lives.  The clock management issues, however, are easily correctable and something anyone who can use a little of logic can fix.  I am convinced that half the fans of the NFL could manage a clock better than some of these head coaches.  Or anything else situational, such as times when a FG just doesn't do you any good or when punting is a bad idea.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that when you're trailing by 6 points late in the 4th quarter kicking a field goal is probably not going to be productive to the ultimate goal of winning the game.  Nor will punting at midfield on 4th and 1 when you're trailing late in the 4th quarter.

You should send this to certain head coach in the Midwest.  I think he needs the help with some of the scenarios you outlined.

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A lot of times there are circumstances and situational factors weighing in the decision making process that we know nothing about. It's easy to second guess anything after the fact.

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Changing the subject real quick, is it me or are the Steelers looking better on defense this year? They've been pretty good, any chance Butler is doing a better job than LeBeau did recently?

I actually like what DL has done here a lot. If not for a few secondary breakdowns we'd be right at the top in points given up. We have played a weak schedule though.

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The actual play calls are always debatable and you're right, for someone who's never done it before it's really hard to justify criticizing people who have done it all their lives.  The clock management issues, however, are easily correctable and something anyone who can use a little of logic can fix.  I am convinced that half the fans of the NFL could manage a clock better than some of these head coaches.  Or anything else situational, such as times when a FG just doesn't do you any good or when punting is a bad idea.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that when you're trailing by 6 points late in the 4th quarter kicking a field goal is probably not going to be productive to the ultimate goal of winning the game.  Nor will punting at midfield on 4th and 1 when you're trailing late in the 4th quarter.

There is always two sides to the story.  For instance, the Fisher situation from last week.  I understand the call to go for 3 points.  The offense hadn't been moving the ball well against the Steelers D all day.  On the other side, his defense had held the Steelers offense to 9 points.  It was fourth a long and I can see the coach taking the three and put it on his defense to get the ball back needing to score only 3 to tie instead of a TD.  The thing is all decision look bad in a loss.  But guess what?  Coaches call plays to win the game..on both sides of the ball.

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There is always two sides to the story.  For instance, the Fisher situation from last week.  I understand the call to go for 3 points.  The offense hadn't been moving the ball well against the Steelers D all day.  On the other side, his defense had held the Steelers offense to 9 points.  It was fourth a long and I can see the coach taking the three and put it on his defense to get the ball back needing to score only 3 to tie instead of a TD.  The thing is all decision look bad in a loss.  But guess what?  Coaches call plays to win the game..on both sides of the ball.

I absolutely hated it.  It was a gutless decision.  They had the ball at the 9 yard line and hadn't done a thing all day offensively.  You absolutely have to score the TD there.  You're likely not getting another opportunity.  And guess what?  They didn't.  Did they even pick up a 1st down on their final drive?  Maybe one.

I think coaches in general are progressing to a point that they're going for it more and not settling as much.  Punting is still way too frequent but it's gotten better.

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