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twice they had 4th and less than 2 and didn't give it to Bell. I would fire him on the spot.

Did you see when  he accepted the 5 yard penalty on 2nd down? It would have been 3rd and down and 4, instead it was 2nd and 9.. Flacco promptly threw an 8 yard pass to make it 3rd and 1 ad the Steelers played off-coverage. Tomlin literally doesn't have a clue about situations

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Tomlin literally doesn't have a clue about situations

This is absolutely true....

I guess he could start diverting attention by saying the Ravens were jamming their headsets!

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qb sweep to the short side. On the second call Vick missed a wide open Brown that would have likely won the game. Scobee barely missed two 45 yard FGs which is why they went for it the second time. You have to kick it there. 

I completely disagree about the FG the second time.  It was 4th and 1.  The FG would have been from 50 yards.  And if they make it the game isn't over.  The Steelers had a chance to win it with a TD.  You should be able to pick up a 4th and 1.

If Vick missed the throw then maybe it was the right call and not executed well.

One thing that I didn't get is why the hell the Steelers didn't go for 2 to go up 21-7.  We see this all the time, teams settling for the XP to go up 13.  And it ends up biting them on the ass.  And haven't the Steelers made a point about trying for two more than average?

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I remember his first year as head coach of the steelers and most on this board were lamenting that the Titans couldn't get a coach as good as him. Funny how things change.  Aside from the cheater - what coach do people like these days?

I'm a big Harbaugh fan.  I know this guy isn't that popular but I like Jason Garrett.  Ton Coughlin's probably too old but I always liked him.  Bruce Arians is a terrific coach.  I actually think Mike ZImmer is a good coach.  I still believe in Whisenhunt.  Outside of that it's 6 of one half a dozen of the other.

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Did you see when  he accepted the 5 yard penalty on 2nd down? It would have been 3rd and down and 4, instead it was 2nd and 9.. Flacco promptly threw an 8 yard pass to make it 3rd and 1 ad the Steelers played off-coverage. Tomlin literally doesn't have a clue about situations

great point. I forgot about that one. I used to think he was a good HC but I was wrong. He's along for the ride.

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Did you see when  he accepted the 5 yard penalty on 2nd down? It would have been 3rd and down and 4, instead it was 2nd and 9.. Flacco promptly threw an 8 yard pass to make it 3rd and 1 ad the Steelers played off-coverage. Tomlin literally doesn't have a clue about situations

That's another thing that drives me nuts about coaches.  Giving a team an extra down.  Sure sometimes it's obvious, like when a holding call makes it 1st and 20 instead of 2nd and 4.  But 5 yards is not enough of a difference to give a team an extra down.

Sometimes during a Titans game they'll run for like 1 yard and then it gets called back due to holding and I'm happy about it.  Because it's an extra play.

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I completely disagree about the FG the second time.  It was 4th and 1.  The FG would have been from 50 yards.  And if they make it the game isn't over.  The Steelers had a chance to win it with a TD.  You should be able to pick up a 4th and 1.

If Vick missed the throw then maybe it was the right call and not executed well.

One thing that I didn't get is why the hell the Steelers didn't go for 2 to go up 21-7.  We see this all the time, teams settling for the XP to go up 13.  And it ends up biting them on the ass.  And haven't the Steelers made a point about trying for two more than average?

wrong both teams had possessions at that point. A FG wins the game.

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wrong both teams had possessions at that point. A FG wins the game.

Really?  Like I said, I didn't see the game.

In that case kick the FG.  Absolute no-brainer. And he should be fired on the spot for not kicking it.  If you don't trust your kicker to kick a 50 yard FG then he should have been released a long time ago.

I assumed based on the fact that they went for it there that they were doing it because a FG didn't necessarily end the game.

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Really?  Like I said, I didn't see the game.

In that case kick the FG.  Absolute no-brainer. And he should be fired on the spot for not kicking it.  If you don't trusty your kicker to kick a 50 yard FG then he should have been released a long time ago.

I assumed based on the fact that they went for it there that they were doing it because a FG didn't necessarily end the game.

the only way you don't kick it there if if you have a young kicker who's confidence is shot. Scobee has been clutch and made game winners for 10 years. There is no excuse for that call unless Scobee was injured.

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I agree with Simms. Scobee is a 12 year vet with a good percentage and a history of being clutch. Both missed fgs had plenty of distance and were barely wide left. You let him attempt a 50 harder.

Kickers are so ridiculously accurate now that just one or two big misses can cause a HC to completely lose faith in a guy.  Tough gig.

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the only way you don't kick it there if if you have a young kicker who's confidence is shot. Scobee has been clutch and made game winners for 10 years. There is no excuse for that call unless Scobee was injured.

I actually would kick it regardless.  If you like the kicker enough to go into a game with him as your kicker and you have a chance to win the game then do it.  It's not like it was 3rd down.  Every single NFL kicker in the league today can hit a 50 yarder with ease.  And if the Steelers felt he couldn't then why was he on the roster coming into the week?

 

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great point. I forgot about that one. I used to think he was a good HC but I was wrong. He's along for the ride.

You're pretty tough on coaches.  Do you have any you like these days?

 

 (legit question, not an attack of any kind. Internet loses tone, so I thought I should clarify) 

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I actually would kick it regardless.  If you like the kicker enough to go into a game with him as your kicker and you have a chance to win the game then do it.  It's not like it was 3rd down.  Every single NFL kicker in the league today can hit a 50 yarder with ease.  And if the Steelers felt he couldn't then why was he on the roster coming into the week?

 

They were saying something last night about how the Steeler's already had two kickers get injured so that is why Scobee is on the team, so good chance they don't have a ton of confidence in him as he is their third option. Add to that already missing two field goals and I can see why they would be hesitant. 

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They were saying something last night about how the Steeler's already had two kickers get injured so that is why Scobee is on the team, so good chance they don't have a ton of confidence in him as he is their third option. Add to that already missing two field goals and I can see why they would be hesitant. 

Josh Scobee has been a solid kicker for a lot of years.  But at the same time there are 32 kickers good enough to make a 50 yard field goal.  If they're not comfortable in Scobee then they should have replaced him already.

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