FRT Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 I’m not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 55 minutes ago, StephenIsLegend said: What are you expecting from a fourth year player who was injured last offseason, learning a new system, and was hamstrung by a system in which he looked uncomfortable? Youre making it seem like he hasn’t done shit when he actually has. Lately, you’ve been as bad with your extreme criticism as the homers have been with their extreme defense. Its okay to be in in the middle, but I think most everyone knows where you stand with Mariota now. I think people take @OILERMAN contrarian views a little too harshly. If we all agreed and nobody pointed out any weaknesses, the levels of knowledge about what we have would be pretty weak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 51 minutes ago, CaliTitan3518 said: I wouldn’t really be worried about losing LaFleur. I don’t think we would end up with some bum OC to replace him. Right. LeFleur comes out of a lineage of coaches. We lucked up getting him because he wasn't allowed to call plays. JRob probably has or will have an understudy in place. Additionally, we'll be playing in the SB and all the good HC jobs will be gone. LaFleur will be here for a long time, if he's successful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 https://www.denverpost.com/2014/10/02/why-footballs-back-shoulder-pass-is-nearly-impossible-to-defend/ Maybe they could try some back shoulder passes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, StephenIsLegend said: I think most everyone knows where you stand with Mariota now. Unless they can’t read Its time for top level production No excuses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, abc2330 said: Here's the lowdown on blanketed WRs: They cannot be thrown open. Throwing the ball to them is not a "contested catch" opportunity, it is a stupid, unforgivable mistake by a QB. Even in practice, it would only increase the likelihood of injury by the WR colliding with the CB in an attempt to break up a pick. Common sense lol. Edited June 17, 2018 by Huston Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Number9 said: I think people take @OILERMAN contrarian views a little too harshly. If we all agreed and nobody pointed out any weaknesses, the levels of knowledge about what we have would be pretty weak. And some follow him off the cliff every time, not because they agree but just to be contrary and the whole argument gets derailed and we have to start all over again after a few weeks lol. Edited June 17, 2018 by Huston Number9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, titansjr9988 said: I agree, but if the offense has a great season or 2 how long does LaFleur stick around before getting offers for a HC position? That's just the burden of being good. Smart teams plan for such inevitabilities by grooming competent successors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Unless they can’t read Its time for top level production No excuses Excuses my ass. Mariota should have lead Ruston Webster's roster to the Super Bowl his first year under Ken Pissincunt? He should have been able to overcome injury and Mike Mularkey's god awful ideas and coaching staff and turned chicken shit into chicken salad? Yeah, it's time. He's finally in an environment and on a team built to produce "top level production." I expect nothing less. But in the event we don't actually get said production I'll judge that event by its own merits, not by some predetermined narrative. And I'll lay blame where it deserves to be. Huston 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, NashvilleNinja said: Excuses my ass. Mariota should have lead Ruston Webster's roster to the Super Bowl his first year under Ken Pissincunt? He should have been able to overcome injury and Mike Mularkey's god awful ideas and coaching staff and turned chicken shit into chicken salad? Yeah, it's time. He's finally in an environment and on a team built to produce "top level production." I expect nothing less. But in the event we don't actually get said production I'll judge that event by its own merits, not by some predetermined narrative. And I'll lay blame where it deserves to be. Amen big2033 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 hours ago, OILERMAN said: Unless they can’t read Its time for top level production No excuses That's pretty much it. He's going to have to prove that he can play QB at a high level for one entire season. It would be nice if he stayed healthy for one year as well. big2033, OILERMAN, and Starkiller 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, NashvilleNinja said: Excuses my ass. Mariota should have lead Ruston Webster's roster to the Super Bowl his first year under Ken Pissincunt? He should have been able to overcome injury and Mike Mularkey's god awful ideas and coaching staff and turned chicken shit into chicken salad? Yeah, it's time. He's finally in an environment and on a team built to produce "top level production." I expect nothing less. But in the event we don't actually get said production I'll judge that event by its own merits, not by some predetermined narrative. And I'll lay blame where it deserves to be. Can you name any "star" QBs that never reached their potential because of the coaching staff? I have high hopes for Mariota. But for some reason fans make all the excuses in the world for their home-town QB. There are people in this forum that STILL blame others for Vince Young's issues. And even Jake Locker, which is shocking. Yet, I doubt you're wondering how the coaching staff ruined JaMarcus Russell or Tim Couch. Flops are flops. So while everyone deserves blame ultimately it falls on the individual to work it out. Edited June 17, 2018 by big2033 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Soxcat said: Mariota is far from being like Russell or Couch (although Couch had his share of injuries). Coaching does matter. Ask Goff. Now I agree if Mariota flops with this coaching staff we should have some serious questions. But cross that bridge when we get to it. Ultimately, a player will be what he's supposed to be. I don't know of any QB that never reached their potential because of staff. Even Luck reached his potential for at least one season and you could question what his staff did to him. I never bought the David Carr BS ... he just wasn't any good. If Mariota NEVER reaches his potential I'll have nobody to blame but Mariota. You can def argue Mularkey helped Mariota progress in year one. Hence the high expectations last year. He didn't do it. You can put blame on a coach for a rough season, but never for a career. I would expect Mariota to figure it out even if Mularkey were still on staff or he's just not good enough. Edited June 17, 2018 by big2033 OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 58 minutes ago, big2033 said: Ultimately, a player will be what he's supposed to be. I don't know of any QB that never reached their potential because of staff. Even Luck reached his potential for at least one season and you could question what his staff did to him. I never bought the David Carr BS ... he just wasn't any good. If Mariota NEVER reaches his potential I'll have nobody to blame but Mariota. You can def argue Mularkey helped Mariota progress in year one. Hence the high expectations last year. He didn't do it. You can put blame on a coach for a rough season, but never for a career. I would expect Mariota to figure it out even if Mularkey were still on staff or he's just not good enough. Things aren't as black and white as that, would Steve Young be who he is if he stayed in Tampa, ditto for Farve in Atlanta. Thats same line of thinking as coaching doesn't matter. As far as QB's figuring it out on their own name one who did because i cant think of one off hand. EagleEye 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenIsLegend Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 I can’t wait until Mariota throws a bad pass. Scotty will be calling for his ass to be benched. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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