abenjami Posted Tuesday at 02:26 AM Author Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:26 AM 1 minute ago, titanskick8851 said: Lol why would they only need to pick one? That’s not how roster building works. If Gibbs stays healthy you can be sure he is likely to be paid as top 1-2 RBs in the NFL right alongside ARSB at WR. You're missing the point of the question. They would only be able to pick one because they are deciding who to take with the #4 pick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanskick8851 Posted Tuesday at 02:28 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:28 AM We complained all year about us not having enough elite players on the roster and then when push comes to shove to pick up an elite prospect who has a path to become elite, we would rather take a lesser player just because of the position they play in a draft lacking elite players at positions of higher value. Let’s just get some good players and be happy. Starkiller, TampaTitan, socaljake, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted Tuesday at 02:29 AM Author Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:29 AM 3 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Because Amon Ra is a top 7 WR. Now go find the 20th receiver and talk to me. It's Alec Pierce. You think they would trade Gibbs for Pierce?? Why are we arbitrarily using the 20th receiver? Is the #7 WR considered "elite"? No, they obviously wouldn't trade Gibbs for Pierce but that isn't really the topic of discussion. They have the #4 pick in the draft and they can take Gibbs or Amon Ra. Or use different guys and say they can take Jeanty or Nico Collins. You take Amon Ra and Collins all day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted Tuesday at 02:30 AM Author Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:30 AM Now if we are talking about a second or third round pick that you don't have to pay $49 million dollars to, take your shot at the RB if you need one. rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted Tuesday at 02:30 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:30 AM You can pick one : Nico Collins or Jahmyr Gibbs , which one do you pick? I picked a good WR and not a total stiff like Coleman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanskick8851 Posted Tuesday at 02:30 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:30 AM 2 minutes ago, abenjami said: You're missing the point of the question. They would only be able to pick one because they are deciding who to take with the #4 pick. You would take ARSB if you knew what he would turn into, but in this scenario this year, there is no ARSB-level talent there. There is only a Gibbs-level talent available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted Tuesday at 02:35 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:35 AM 4 minutes ago, abenjami said: Why are we arbitrarily using the 20th receiver? Is the #7 WR considered "elite"? No, they obviously wouldn't trade Gibbs for Pierce but that isn't really the topic of discussion. They have the #4 pick in the draft and they can take Gibbs or Amon Ra. Or use different guys and say they can take Jeanty or Nico Collins. You take Amon Ra and Collins all day. Sleepy said those positions where you had a starter were better than an elite RB, so I gave him the benefit of the doubt and went with the 20th player, which is good to average depending on position. That was the hypothetical. But yes, it's arbitrary. The positional value is real, but only insomuch as the goal is the most amount of elite talent versus positional value. If you think Tate is a top ten WR then you take him over Love. I don't think anyone is arguing against that. rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted Tuesday at 02:39 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:39 AM 31 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Corey Davis is a really good comp for the top rated WR in this draft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted Tuesday at 02:41 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:41 AM 3 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Sleepy said those positions where you had a starter were better than an elite RB, so I gave him the benefit of the doubt and went with the 20th player, which is good to average depending on position. That was the hypothetical. But yes, it's arbitrary. The positional value is real, but only insomuch as the goal is the most amount of elite talent versus positional value. If you think Tate is a top ten WR then you take him over Love. I don't think anyone is arguing against that. If Tate is only a solid #2 like Davis , then yes Love all the way. If he’s like a high end 2 WR like Tee Higgins who can masquerade as a #1 WR at times, I’d have a hard time bypassing that . Well it would make me debate it at least. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted Tuesday at 02:42 AM Author Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:42 AM 8 minutes ago, rns90 said: You can pick one : Nico Collins or Jahmyr Gibbs , which one do you pick? This still doesn't fully capture the question though. You can have Nico Collins and pay him Darious Slayton money. Or you can have Gibbs and pay him Alvin Kamara/Josh Jacobs money. Which do you take? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted Tuesday at 02:43 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:43 AM Keon Coleman? Corey Davis? Hot damn some of ya'll are desperate to justify your obsession with Love. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted Tuesday at 02:44 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:44 AM 1 minute ago, NashvilleNinja said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted Tuesday at 02:46 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:46 AM 3 minutes ago, rns90 said: If Tate is only a solid #2 like Davis , then yes Love all the way. If he’s like a high end 2 WR like Tee Higgins who can masquerade as a #1 WR at times, I’d have a hard time bypassing that . Well it would make me debate it at least. Funny enough going through the list Tee Higgins was about my cutoff where I thought now there's an argument. Tee Higgins of Jahmyr Gibbs. It's close. On a rookie contract I think it goes to Higgins. But I for real just can't put Tate at that level. I've tried. And he has traits that translate, but I worry about him ever being a WR#1. I think his ceiling is Tee. rns90, and Starkiller 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted Tuesday at 02:46 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:46 AM 3 minutes ago, abenjami said: This still doesn't fully capture the question though. You can have Nico Collins and pay him Darious Slayton money. Or you can have Gibbs and pay him Alvin Kamara/Josh Jacobs money. Which do you take? The WR obviously. It’s been proven that you can cobble together a decent RB and win the superbowl without paying him top 5 RB money IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted Tuesday at 02:49 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:49 AM 4 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: Keon Coleman? Corey Davis? Hot damn some of ya'll are desperate to justify your obsession with Love. Yeah that's a terrible comp. Corey Davis is much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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