oldschool Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 41 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Your list is so weak you included Reed? No offense but fans always get this wrong. Players need to develop, culture needs to be formed, and you do that by playing and getting better. If it leads to wins, even better has it helps toward building something. This zero sum game of #1 pick or playoffs is one of the most annoying things to come out of fandom in the recent years. The coaches, players, and personnel guys all know the correct path here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 38 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Imagine this scenario. The Titans go on some run and win 3/4 or so games. The season is over…. The Titans now sit here in March with a pitiful roster and the 13th pick in the draft. Would anyone be happy the Titans beat the Jets, Browns and maybe the Jags to drop way down in the draft? Would those wins catapult the Titans to a promising 2026? Fuck no Ward’s development is going to consist of way more than playing some meaningless games with a terrible supporting cast The Jets recently had 5 picks in the 1st 2 rounds. how did that work out for them? I'd much rather the Titans go on a winning spree, not going to happen, and get a lower draft pick while guys develop into good starters than the dumb crap you and others are peddling where we root for 1-16. if Borgonzi is good at his job, he can rebuild this team without going 1-16. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 Just now, oldschool said: No offense but fans always get this wrong. Players need to develop, culture needs to be formed, and you do that by playing and getting better. If it leads to wins, even better has it helps toward building something. This zero sum game of #1 pick or playoffs is one of the most annoying things to come out of fandom in the recent years. The coaches, players, and personnel guys all know the correct path here. No1 said this. Speaking of the front office knows what most important, the titans tanking the last game of the season last year with brinker at the helm doesn't put even a little damper on this narative? Side note, you mentioned in another post that things are different this year compared to last year because we have our qb. How so if levis were to have shown out would that have been any different than if ward does? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 4 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: I'm not sure how but over the last few games the pass rush has looked unexpectedly decent The Chargers were down to their 4th and 5th OT for one thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 15 minutes ago, oldschool said: The coaches, players, and personnel guys all know the correct path here. Yes they do. It's why they have openly talked about acquiring draft picks, 12 in the top 100 etc.... It's why they have talked about patience etc.... They totally understand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Callidus said: No1 said this. Speaking of the front office knows what most important, the titans tanking the last game of the season last year with brinker at the helm doesn't put even a little damper on this narative? Side note, you mentioned in another post that things are different this year compared to last year because we have our qb. How so if levis were to have shown out would that have been any different than if ward does? Are you on crack? This happens every year now. as soon as the season is over record wise, fans start talking about tanking and getting the highest possible draft pick. Losing the lost game of the season or more accurately, not doing everything you can to win it is very different than tanking for 8 fucking games because you want the #1 pick. Edited November 11 by oldschool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 Just now, OILERMAN said: Yes they do. It's why they have openly talked about acquiring draft picks, 12 in the top 100 etc.... It's why they have talked about patience etc.... They totally understand Which isn't the same as actively trying to lose games which is what you and others claim. if the Titans really were doing what you are saying, they'd start the backup QB the rest of the year and bench dike... I wonder why they don't? no I don't, I know why. If you asked Borgonzi right now, he'd tell you he's rather go 9-8 than 1-16. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 6 minutes ago, oldschool said: Are you on crack? This happens every year now. as soon as the season is over record wise, fans start talking about tanking and getting the highest possible draft pick. Losing the lost game of the season or more accurately, not doing everything you can to win it is very different than tanking for 8 fucking games because you want the #1 pick. No1 is talking about tanking. Iv been advocating getting all the young guys playing time like you just posted. And i really want the highest pick possible. But find me one post where i say we should be tanking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 1 hour ago, Callidus said: Ward putting together a few good games in a lost season is worth as much as a shit sandwhich. If he is going to be good he is going to be good. Sure, him tossing for 400 yarda and 3tds a gsme down the stretch while still not winning a game would be most ideal, but if that pushes us from 1st to 7th, that could really hurt. That all said, I doubt we have to worry about any of this. This you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 19 minutes ago, oldschool said: Which isn't the same as actively trying to lose games which is what you and others claim. if the Titans really were doing what you are saying, they'd start the backup QB the rest of the year and bench dike... I wonder why they don't? no I don't, I know why. If you asked Borgonzi right now, he'd tell you he's rather go 9-8 than 1-16. It isn't just fans. More recently teams are losing the last game/s on purpose. The Bills 100% tried to lose to the Pats last year to keep NE from getting the top pick. TB lost on purpose to get the #1 pick when they drafted Winston. The Fins did it in 2019. rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 24 minutes ago, oldschool said: If you asked Borgonzi right now, he'd tell you he's rather go 9-8 than 1-16. That's why he just traded Jones and McCreary? tgo, and titanruss 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 12 minutes ago, oldschool said: This you? Saying winning is of no benefit to us is not saying we should tank. Thats like saying someone who says antibiotics wont help a severed head is pro guillotine. OILERMAN, Supernope, titanruss, and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernope Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 16 minutes ago, Callidus said: Saying winning is of no benefit to us is not saying we should tank. Thats like saying someone who says antibiotics wont help a severed head is pro guillotine. team 1-16 all the way!! Callidus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ToneTerror Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 1 hour ago, oldschool said: No offense but fans always get this wrong. Players need to develop, culture needs to be formed, and you do that by playing and getting better. If it leads to wins, even better has it helps toward building something. This zero sum game of #1 pick or playoffs is one of the most annoying things to come out of fandom in the recent years. The coaches, players, and personnel guys all know the correct path here. Agree with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 45 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: It isn't just fans. More recently teams are losing the last game/s on purpose. The Bills 100% tried to lose to the Pats last year to keep NE from getting the top pick. TB lost on purpose to get the #1 pick when they drafted Winston. The Fins did it in 2019. They aren’t intentionally trying to lose games but the FO is increasing their odds of getting a high pick via roster construction (or lack thereof). I’m also not sure how Aussie sees us winning two games. They can’t really score or shut people down at all. They are the worst at both areas. At least some of these bad teams are ok in one of these areas. OILERMAN, and Callidus 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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