IrishTitansFan Posted Friday at 07:14 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 07:14 PM 1 hour ago, Callidus said: 14th 1st schwartz 1st schwartz 24th 13th 19th Not exactly a staple. More like, when he had Schwartz it was good. They had the lowest YPC over his tenure, lowest YPG and one of the best EPA Also very well known that Terrell Williams presided over the run defense, not Schwartz (who Vrabel hired btw) it is a staple because that’s what Vrabel rightly or wrongly preaches, stopping the run on early downs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted Friday at 07:59 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 07:59 PM 44 minutes ago, IrishTitansFan said: They had the lowest YPC over his tenure, lowest YPG and one of the best EPA Also very well known that Terrell Williams presided over the run defense, not Schwartz (who Vrabel hired btw) it is a staple because that’s what Vrabel rightly or wrongly preaches, stopping the run on early downs Yet they were middle of the pack or worse every year except when we had jim, interesting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
croatian22 Posted Friday at 08:14 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 08:14 PM 18 hours ago, Mythos27 said: Look, I certainly get arguing that Vrabel is a good coach. He certainly is. I can also understand people thinking that things didn't NECESSARILY have to work out the way they did with Amy. What is certainly a bridge too far is as a Titans fan to be embarrassingly pining after Mike Vrabel and publicly expressing you want him back. Where is your pride as a fan and really as a man? Gutless and disgusting. I'm a very proud Titans fan. But the guy was just like he is today. Great coach, he guided us with the most injured roster ever to the AFC first seed. THERE WAS A CULTURE IN TENNESSEE. He built it. We were well respected team around the league. Now, we are an embarrassment and joke. And stupid people on this board were happy when he was fired. I hope they are happy now hahah. Firing Mike Vrabel was the dumbest thing in the history of sports. Number9, oldschool, and Supernope 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted Friday at 08:47 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 08:47 PM 33 minutes ago, croatian22 said: I'm a very proud Titans fan. But the guy was just like he is today. Great coach, he guided us with the most injured roster ever to the AFC first seed. THERE WAS A CULTURE IN TENNESSEE. He built it. We were well respected team around the league. Now, we are an embarrassment and joke. And stupid people on this board were happy when he was fired. I hope they are happy now hahah. Firing Mike Vrabel was the dumbest thing in the history of sports. Well respected? That team was called the worst 1 seed in nfl history lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted Friday at 09:29 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 09:29 PM 1 hour ago, Callidus said: Yet they were middle of the pack or worse every year except when we had jim, interesting And nvidia have made a ton of money after I invested in them. Maybe it was all me? Supernope 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted Friday at 09:31 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 09:31 PM (edited) 5 minutes ago, IrishTitansFan said: And nvidia have made a ton of money after I invested in them. Maybe it was all me? You would need to sell your stock and the price to drop back to where it was when you bough it immediately for this comparison to even kinda work. Edited Friday at 09:35 PM by Callidus oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted Friday at 09:47 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 09:47 PM 15 minutes ago, Callidus said: You would need to sell your stock and the price to drop back to where it was when you bough it immediately for this comparison to even kinda work. No it’s a simple example that correlation does not equal causation! Maybe I need to find an even simpler comparison… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinx81 Posted Friday at 09:54 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 09:54 PM Current strength of schedule DCTitan, Supernope, Callidus, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted Friday at 09:55 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 09:55 PM (edited) 8 minutes ago, IrishTitansFan said: No it’s a simple example that correlation does not equal causation! Maybe I need to find an even simpler comparison… Dude, vrable is not a good defensive coach. All data points to it. But lets keep it simple. When he was an actual DC, bad. When he forced out pees, they dropped hard. when he lost jim, bad. Vrable is a motivator and pretty good at game time HC decisions, though he has made a few wtf decisions like the punt from the 40. He is not an x's and o's guy. Im not going to break it all down for you, but its beyond obvious the defense without a top guy running it for it was always meh, to bad. For the love of god when it was him and bowen we watched them basically play prevent defense on every 3rd down for 2 straight years lol. Edited Friday at 09:57 PM by Callidus oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted Friday at 09:57 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 09:57 PM 1 minute ago, Callidus said: Dude, vrable is nit a good defensive coach. All data points to it. When he was an actual DC, bad. When he forced out pees, they dropped hard. when he lost jim, bad. Vrable is a motivator and pretty good at game time HC decisions, though he has made a few wtf decisions like the punt from the 40. He is not an x's and o's guy. Im not going to break it all down for you, but its beyond obvious the defense without a top guy running it for it was always meh, to bad. For the love of god when it was him and bowen we watched them basically play prevent defense on every 3rd down for 2 straight years lol. You are arguing something completely different to what I said Vrabels defensive philosophy and ideal scenario is to have a good run defense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted Friday at 10:01 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 10:01 PM 1 minute ago, IrishTitansFan said: You are arguing something completely different to what I said Vrabels defensive philosophy and ideal scenario is to have a good run defense Ok.... so your saying you know he never had a top tier rush defense even though it was his primary focus on defense? Idk how that is something to list as a positive. Next time i look for a job im going to list all the stuff im very average at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted Friday at 10:04 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 10:04 PM 1 minute ago, Callidus said: Ok.... so your saying you know he never had a top tier rush defense even though it was his primary focus on defense? Idk how that is something to list as a positive. Next time i look for a job im going to list all the stuff im very average at. He had literally the best run defense in the NFL from the period 2018-2023 and has the #1 run defense again this year Like everything, it goes up and down with talent and personnel Regardless of how successful it has been, it’s what he believes in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted Friday at 10:37 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 10:37 PM 2 hours ago, croatian22 said: I'm a very proud Titans fan. But the guy was just like he is today. Great coach, he guided us with the most injured roster ever to the AFC first seed. THERE WAS A CULTURE IN TENNESSEE. He built it. We were well respected team around the league. Now, we are an embarrassment and joke. And stupid people on this board were happy when he was fired. I hope they are happy now hahah. Firing Mike Vrabel was the dumbest thing in the history of sports. I didn't think Vrabel was the problem in TN but you're not a Titans fan. No Titans fan with any pride in their team would deep-throating Vrabel the way you do. This is not the way to serve crow on this board. Have some class. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted Friday at 10:40 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 10:40 PM 31 minutes ago, IrishTitansFan said: He had literally the best run defense in the NFL from the period 2018-2023 and has the #1 run defense again this year Like everything, it goes up and down with talent and personnel Regardless of how successful it has been, it’s what he believes in The patriots have played the 31st, 30th, 29th, 28th, 26th, 25th, 23rd, 15th, 8th, 4th and 1st rushing offense this year. Just saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted Friday at 10:42 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 10:42 PM (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: I didn't think Vrabel was the problem in TN but you're not a Titans fan. No Titans fan with any pride in their team would deep-throating Vrabel the way you do. This is not the way to serve crow on this board. Have some class. Hes a shtick account now. I know i still intact with him like a legit poster myself from time to time but gota treat him more like bongo for the meanwhile. Edited Friday at 10:42 PM by Callidus Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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