Leviticus 1933

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7 minutes ago, Little Earl said:

 

 LOL if you think Jesus would be ok with killing babies or advocating for secularism.  Jesus didn't address every sin imaginable, so him not mentioning it does not mean anything.   Although he did make it clear marriage was between a man and a woman. 

 

Pretty clear that he'd be a progressive democrat 

[Strunk'sDessert]

26 minutes ago, Little Earl said:

 

 LOL if you think Jesus would be ok with killing babies or advocating for secularism.  Jesus didn't address every sin imaginable, so him not mentioning it does not mean anything.   Although he did make it clear marriage was between a man and a woman. 

 

[Titandan]

10 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

Everyone knows Trump doesn't give two shits about religion/God in the least and he uses it to manipulate suckers. If you don't see this it's because you are one of the suckers. 

That's politics for you, buddy.  You forgot to watch Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, and Hillary Clinton do their tours around black churches?  That's a crucial part of the Democrat playbook.  Let's be real for a minute. 

 

And no.  I don't think Trump is a Christian. I don't think he understands the concept of grace.  And he's said on a number of occasions that's he probably won't get to heaven but he hope his good works well help him. He's probably half joking but I hope he does end up accepting Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior as I do all of you.  

[Starkiller]

5 hours ago, Little Earl said:

 

 LOL if you think Jesus would be ok with killing babies or advocating for secularism.  Jesus didn't address every sin imaginable, so him not mentioning it does not mean anything.   Although he did make it clear marriage was between a man and a woman. 

Nothing Jesus preached nor anything in the Bible is anti-abortion. In fact it gives instructions on how to give an abortion and says that life begins at birth. 
 

And Jesus and the Bible didn’t rail against secularism. 
 

Jesus also never said marriage was between a man and a woman. 

[MadMax]

1 hour ago, Starkiller said:

Nothing Jesus preached nor anything in the Bible is anti-abortion. In fact it gives instructions on how to give an abortion and says that life begins at birth. 
 

And Jesus and the Bible didn’t rail against secularism. 
 

Jesus also never said marriage was between a man and a woman. 

My Baptist self absolutely agrees with my atheist friend here.  He is correct.

[OILERMAN]

5 hours ago, Titandan said:

  Let's be real for a minute. 

 

 

[Titandan]

38 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

 

Umm...  In "Uncle Tom's Cabin," you do know Uncle Tom is a Christian protagonist, right? 

Still don't know why dummies like the guy in the video continue to ignorantly use that term as an insult.  

And if you want to put black politicians down, at least pick an incompetent one.  Enjoy the shellacking.  
 

[Titandan]

4 hours ago, Starkiller said:

Nothing Jesus preached nor anything in the Bible is anti-abortion. In fact it gives instructions on how to give an abortion and says that life begins at birth. 

Jeremiah 1:5  "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations."

 

4 hours ago, Starkiller said:

And Jesus and the Bible didn’t rail against secularism. 

Jesus' role on earth was to die for our sins. He wasn't here to start an earthly political revolution.

But the bible as a whole definitely railed against secularism. The entire Old Testament is filled with a historical pattern of tension between God and Israel on the governance of God's people.  First the judges were the leaders of Israel, then prophets led, and then God finally relented and gave the people their king.  The tension between God and his people were that God wanted to lead the nation while the people continued to ask for a king like other nations. 
 

I Samuel 8:4-8
4 So all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah.
5 They said to him, “You are old, and your sons do not follow your ways; now appoint a king to lead us, such as all the other nations have.”

6 But when they said, “Give us a king to lead us,” this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the Lord.
7 And the Lord told him: “Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king.
8 As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. 

God's plan was to be Israel's rightful Ruler.  But Israel wanted their own secular king so God gave in. 

God led the people of Israel out of the secular rule in Egypt.  But when Moses brought them out into the desert, the Israelites complained instead of being thankful. 

Exodus 16:2-3
2 Then the whole congregation of the children of Israel complained against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness. 3 And the children of Israel said to them, “Oh, that we had died by the hand of the Lord in the land of Egypt, when we sat by the pots of meat and when we ate bread to the full! For you have brought us out into this wilderness to kill this whole assembly with hunger.”

People would rather live as slaves with a full belly than to have freedom and suffer for a season. 
Furthermore, the story of Moses leading Israel out of Egypt was instrumental and inspirational in the fight for emancipation in America and also in the Christian movement to abolish slavery in Great Britain.

 

4 hours ago, Starkiller said:

Jesus also never said marriage was between a man and a woman. 

Homosexuality was probably deeply closeted at that time so not sure what to say about that except Jesus didn't refute the existing scriptures that goes against it in the OT.  My friend actually brought this up. I really don't care too much to be honest.  

[OILERMAN]

9 hours ago, Titandan said:

Still don't know why dummies like the guy in the video continue to ignorantly use that term as an insult.  

 

Speaking of dummies:

 

In October 2025, a large volume of leaked messages from a private group chat of Young Republican leaders was published, which included the repeated use of slurs against Asian people, among other racist, antisemitic, and hateful comments.

[Little Earl]

13 hours ago, MadMax said:

My Baptist self absolutely agrees with my atheist friend here.  He is correct.

 

Matthew 19: 4-6

Jesus answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female,  and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two but one flesh.

 

Had Jesus wished to extend the right of marriage beyond this definition, here was his opportunity. But he didn’t take it.

[Titandan]

6 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

 

Speaking of dummies:

 

In October 2025, a large volume of leaked messages from a private group chat of Young Republican leaders was published, which included the repeated use of slurs against Asian people, among other racist, antisemitic, and hateful comments.

 

I've had racist stuff hurled at me mostly like black people but funny thing is, they get so sensitive if someone says anything racist to them. Latinos insult too but they can take it and they do it to each other the most. One of my best friends from high school is a Mexican and he calls me chink and I call him beaner just to mess around. 

 

And my old college roommate who was a huge white hick from Arkansas hurled racist insults at he once.  But I kind of had it coming. I turned off his alarm in the morning and went back to sleep instead of waking him up. He missed basketball practice and almost got cut from the team lol. Thinking back on it, it was a dick move but I simply didn't understand the concept of being considerate back then I guess. 

 

So I don't know what was shared on the text messages. But it would take a lot for me to get offended.  Like death threats or calls for violence against a specific race or creed. 

[MadMax]

11 hours ago, Little Earl said:

Had Jesus wished to extend the right of marriage beyond this definition, here was his opportunity. But he didn’t take it.

Had Jesus wished to condemn the right of marriage beyond this definition, here was his opportunity.  But he didn't take it.