Oiler FANatic Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I was actually coming here to post I think Ramsay may have killed Roose and his wife. The way the scene with Sansa and that girl went down gave me a feeling that Ramsay had just done something rash and set her off into a bit of a frenzy. That would explain Myranda's actions when she went after Sansa. And there was a previous scene with Ramsey and Sansa that is very important here. Sansa was telling him about how his unborn half-brother would have a better claim as his father's heir because his mother was highborn and Ramsey's wasn't. So Ramsey would have no choice other than to get rid of the competition by killing Walda Frey/Bolton along with her unborn child, but Roose would not allow this. Therefore Ramsey would be forced to kill his father, after killing his step-mother and unborn half-brother, then he would be lord and commander of House Bolton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Golden crown could refer to hair... reo, and Starkiller 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Golden crown could refer to hair... or maybe even just a princess, even if she didn't actually wear a crown. And the Dornish consider her to be a queen and the rightful heir to the throne after Joffrey died. Not sure what will happen to her in the books yet, of course... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 She was supposed to wear a golden crown before wearing a golden shroud according to the prophecy. I don't know why everyone's assuming that she's dead. She was probably given a poison similar to that which was used on Bronn, one that's slow-acting and painful. I'd be very surprised if Myrcella doesn't make it. Her journey to King's Landing will be gruesome for her, then they will get her to Qyburn just in time and he will of course have the antidote needed to cure her. I think it's a very safe bet to say that she is dead, based on what Tyene told Bronn when he was poisoned. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 There was no risk at all, it was a slaughter. Roose should have been out there leading his men, unless he was dead or incapacitated. It would have been perceived as cowardly for him to send Ramsey into battle in command of his army. Something must have happened to him. There is no reason to believe Roose did not go out there. They have limited time and between showing Roose being himself and Ramsey being a dick, they choose to show Ramsey. I honestly don't think there's anything more to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 There was no risk at all, it was a slaughter. Roose should have been out there leading his men, unless he was dead or incapacitated. It would have been perceived as cowardly for him to send Ramsey into battle in command of his army. Something must have happened to him. there's always risk in war. And why would he give a shit about what people see as cowardly? Kings and lords don't have to lead from the front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 She was supposed to wear a golden crown before wearing a golden shroud according to the prophecy. I don't know why everyone's assuming that she's dead. She was probably given a poison similar to that which was used on Bronn, one that's slow-acting and painful. I'd be very surprised if Myrcella doesn't make it. Her journey to King's Landing will be gruesome for her, then they will get her to Qyburn just in time and he will of course have the antidote needed to cure her. She dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted June 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 She's dead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMJ Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 It was awesome seeing Roose recruit the Dothraki horde to defeat Stannis. I look forward to seeing Brienne kill Jaqen H'ghar and Bronn next season as she teleports through Westeros. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oiler FANatic Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) I think it's a very safe bet to say that she is dead, based on what Tyene told Bronn when he was poisoned. Not really. She said that it was a slow-acting poison, they should have more than enough time to save Myrcella. Everything in the prophecy Maggy the Frog told Cersei has been 100% accurate. So all of her children will rule Westeros before they die. Edited June 18, 2015 by Oiler FANatic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Not really. She said that it was a slow-acting poison, they should have more than enough time to save Myrcella. And everything in the prophesy told to Cersei by Maggy the Frog has been 100% accurate. So her 3rd child will be queen of Westeros after Tommen dies. Slow acting just means how long before it took effect. Just look at how much she was bleeding. She would be dead from blood loss in minutes regardless of any other effect of the poison. And as I said, Myrcella was technically queen by the laws of Dorne. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oiler FANatic Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Slow acting just means how long before it took effect. Just look at how much she was bleeding. She would be dead from blood loss in minutes regardless of any other effect of the poison. And as I said, Myrcella was technically queen by the laws of Dorne. She had a bloody nose, there wasn't enough blood loss to kill her. Maybe Cersei's children are destined to die in order, which would mean she is dead by poisoning. And if she technically wore a golden crown when she was a princess of Dorne, then the prophecy was fulfilled. It still seems like a cop-out to her being a true queen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Pretty sure the golden crown refers to her hair meaning she's a pure Lannister and not a Baratheon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 She had a bloody nose, there wasn't enough blood loss to kill her. Maybe Cersei's children are destined to die in order, which would mean she is dead by poisoning. And if she technically wore a golden crown when she was a princess of Dorne, then the prophecy was fulfilled. It still seems like a cop-out to her being a true queen. there was lots of blood loss for an unstoppable bleed onboard a ship. She is undoubtably dead. And you are being way too literal when it comes to prophecies... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oiler FANatic Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 there was lots of blood loss for an unstoppable bleed onboard a ship. She is undoubtably dead. And you are being way too literal when it comes to prophecies... Joffery was king before he died, presumably Tommen will die young, so why wouldn't Myrcella be queen before she dies? It makes perfect sense. At least far more sense than thinking that Jamie would let his only daughter bleed to death when all it would take it a simple nose pinch to save her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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