Starkiller Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, Titandan said: Maddow "reported" on the Trump Russian collusion scandal for over a year. Not a single apology... why apologize for telling the truth? OILERMAN, and MadMax 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titandan Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 5 hours ago, pat said: I don't get the obsession with Rachel Maddow. There have been people like Rush Limbaugh doing even less factual programs for literally decades. Rush Limbaugh was a political commentator. Not a journalist. Opinion talk radio has a place in our society but journalists should be held to a higher standard. Most of these commentators do report on stuff in occasion but mostly they depend on other existing reports instead of investigating themselves (or with their team) with raw material. Rush was one of the first political commentators. What a guy... lol Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titandan Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 3 minutes ago, Starkiller said: why apologize for telling the truth? They based their stories on a fake dossier... you're still not aware? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Just now, Titandan said: They based their stories on a fake dossier... you're still not aware? No they didn’t Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titandan Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 4 hours ago, IrishTitansFan said: The CDU (who will go into government with the social democrats) won the election That is the party of Angela Merkel, who your type accused of being left wing! They are considered moderate liberals. I don't really care about that. Just wish they elected someone who's more independent. Not another institutionalist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titandan Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Just now, Starkiller said: No they didn’t Yes they did lol Are you saying they didn't depend on the Dossier or are you saying that the Dossier was legit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 12 minutes ago, Titandan said: Yes they did lol Are you saying they didn't depend on the Dossier or are you saying that the Dossier was legit? They didn’t do their reporting based on the Steele Dossier because it wasn’t considered reliable Even the Republican-majority Senate Intelligence Committee published a report that agreed with the facts behind the Russia collusion back in 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titandan Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Still waiting @Starkiller... You know Russia collusion was a hoax. More info to come but everything they based their investigations on and wasted tax payer money on was fake. Doesn't piss you off just a little? You've been reported fiction for over a year even though you so wanted it to be true with every bone in your body. Similar thing happened to me with the whole weapons of mass destruction thing and Iraq. Bush, Cheney, and the CIA pisses me off to this day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Starkiller Posted February 24 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, Titandan said: Still waiting @Starkiller... You know Russia collusion was a hoax. More info to come but everything they based their investigations on and wasted tax payer money on was fake. Doesn't piss you off just a little? You've been reported fiction for over a year even though you so wanted it to be true with every bone in your body. Similar thing happened to me with the whole weapons of mass destruction thing and Iraq. Bush, Cheney, and the CIA pisses me off to this day. As for the known details, none of which came from the Steele Dossier: Why did the Trump campaign give internal polling to Russian intelligence? Why did Trump's team coordinate with Wikileaks to release email information stolen by Russia? Why did the Russian government give material support to the Trump campaign during the election? Why did the Trump campaign meet with a lawyer from the Kremlin at Trump Tower? Why did Trump hire Paul Manafort, who worked for a pro-Putin party in Ukraine but had no recent background in American politics, to run his campaign? Why did that pro-Russia party then eliminate $12M of debt Manafort owed them (not related to the $10M he owed a separate Russian oligarch? Why did Trump select Rex Tillerson, a man with a working relationship with Putin's government but no diplomatic experience, to run the State Department? Why did Trump lie about not having any business dealings in Russia when, in fact, he had been working for years to build a Trump Tower in Moscow? Why did Trump invite the Russian ambassador, foreign minister, and state run media crew into the Oval Office (and then didn’t report it)? Why did Trump refuse to enact economic sanctions against Russia as passed by Congress in response to the invasion of Crimea? Why did Trump move to repeal those sanctions against Russia? Why did Trump openly say he believed Putin over American intel agencies? Why did Trump pull us out of the Open Skies treaty that gave us military overflight access to Russia? I probably missed a few bits of evidence there… No1TitansFan, OILERMAN, ChemEngr79, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titandan Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Maddow reported on the Dossier more than once. Would have been better served reading "the Hobbit" and reporting on Bilbo Baggins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Trump definitely colluded with Russia. Maddow definitely exaggerated the veracity of the Steele dossier knowing full well what it was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Apparently the Eagles are refusing to go to the White House to celebrate their Super Bowl win OILERMAN, No1TitansFan, MadMax, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Titandan said: Rush Limbaugh was a political commentator. Not a journalist. Opinion talk radio has a place in our society but journalists should be held to a higher standard. Most of these commentators do report on stuff in occasion but mostly they depend on other existing reports instead of investigating themselves (or with their team) with raw material. Rush was one of the first political commentators. What a guy... lol Limbaugh was a raging asshole, a coke addict, and is largely responsible for setting the stage for all the media sensationalism we see today. No1TitansFan, and Jamalisms 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 39 minutes ago, Titandan said: Maddow reported on the Dossier more than once. Would have been better served reading "the Hobbit" and reporting on Bilbo Baggins. Some of it was real, some of it was not, and some was unverified. Regardless, she admitted it wasn’t all true so what’s the problem? ChemEngr79 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titandan Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 5 minutes ago, Starkiller said: Why did Trump's team coordinate with Wikileaks to release email information stolen by Russia? I don't know. Maybe it benefitted them? 6 minutes ago, Starkiller said: Why did the Russian government give material support to the Trump campaign during the election? Maybe Putin wanted Trump to win? 7 minutes ago, Starkiller said: Why did the Trump campaign meet with a lawyer from the Kremlin at Trump Tower? The Russian lady said she had dirt on Hillary from what I can recall. She was bluffing and DT Jr and Kushner left the meeting when the realized she was wasting their time. 8 minutes ago, Starkiller said: Why did Trump hire Paul Manafort, who worked for a pro-Putin party in Ukraine but had no recent background in American politics, to run his campaign? I don't know Manafort's background but perhaps it would have been better for the United States to stay out of Ukrainian politics. The west pretty much stage a coup to kick out President Yanukovych in Ukraine in 2014. Probably pissed off Putin a little bit. 21 minutes ago, Starkiller said: Why did that pro-Russia party then eliminate $12M of debt Manafort owed them (not related to the $10M he owed a separate Russian oligarch? Don't know. 22 minutes ago, Starkiller said: Why did Trump select Rex Tillerson, a man with a working relationship with Putin's government but no diplomatic experience, to run the State Department? Did he build it? 23 minutes ago, Starkiller said: Why did Trump invite the Russian ambassador, foreign minister, and state run media crew into the Oval Office (and then didn’t report it)? Is it protocol to report it? 23 minutes ago, Starkiller said: Why did Trump refuse to enact economic sanctions against Russia as passed by Congress in response to the invasion of Crimea? Why did Trump move to repeal those sanctions against Russia? Maybe because he wasn't president when it happened? Maybe because that would piss off Putin? Perhaps, treating Putin with respect and honesty is a way of not pissing him off and an effective way of deterring him from invading Ukraine. I think Putin's a gangster(not in a fantastized way). I've befriended gangsters when I was in high school. Still friends with some of them to this day. They're not active anymore. The ones I know are actually not total dicks if you treat them with respect. That's why I had my issues with some of you when I first stated posting. Forgot about the nature of the internet lol. Funny as hell when I think about it. 34 minutes ago, Starkiller said: Why did Trump openly say he believed Putin over American intel agencies? Because intel agencies are sketchy as hell. Why is all the info on Trump's shooter still not disclosed? JFK, RFK, MLK, Epstein, Diddy? Weapons of mass destruction? But at the end of the day, he's trolling. You expect your enemy to stab you in the back. You don't expect that from your own countrymen. A stranger and punch you and you'll recover but if you find out your wife's cheating, it will hit you like a ton of bricks. 38 minutes ago, Starkiller said: Why did Trump pull us out of the Open Skies treaty that gave us military overflight access to Russia? Because open skies is gayer than blue sky? Lol I don't know. Maybe US didn't want foreign spy drones to surveil US soil. Man... too many questions. I think you're baiting me. Sheesh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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