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11 hours ago, rns90 said:

Haven’t seen that one but I’ll try to watch it.  So many underrated and great films by him.  This one kind of hurts even though he was 95.


70s (I’ll try to go through some of the non obvious ones); Cisco Pike —Hackman had a supporting role but it’s a pretty good cast (all dead sadly) , Harry Dean Stanton, Kris Kristofferson.

 

Night Moves.  This one gets on great 70s movies lists but it’s not well known.  James Woods and Melanie Griffin in early roles.  It captures a lot of 70s vibes and pragmatism

 

Prime Cut:  more of a Lee Marvin film but Hackman has a fun role as the villain.  It’s also a changing of the times film .


80s.  Mississippi Burning.  Hackman plays the bigot partner and he makes him sort of likable in the end 


Target:  kind of a Cold War thriller w/Matt Dillion.  Mentioned it because both actors seemed to be starring in different films


90s Narrow Margin:  not sure where this one ranks but it’s a personal fave .  
 

The Quick and the dead ; he’s basically rehashing the Little Bill character but less evil.

 

The best thing I’ve read about Hackman is that he made difficult men a little more understandable.  You didn’t automatically think he was a one note or one dimensional character.

Hackman and Denzel were both great in a personal favorite of mine, Crimson Tide

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6 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

Hoosiers and Unforgiven obviously 

The thing about Unforgiven is he really  isn’t the bad guy there . I mean he’s functioning as the mayor there and punishing the three guys that defaced that prostitute.  It’s just that the women paid for the bounty/hit and well chaos ensued.  It’s pretty an anti western in terms of the hero William Munny.  He’s basically a drunken POS, an awful human being , no where close to the heros of traditional westerns .  Honestly the Richard Harris character might be the biggest POS in that movie because he’s a coward and liar.

 

Probably not the best or most famous Hackman film, but I’ve ending up watching No Way Out a few times and it’s creeped up on me as a personal fav.  It’s a remake but it’s the type I like where they just make it their own story .  Also a really good 80s Cold War /subterfuge film.

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9 hours ago, rns90 said:

The thing about Unforgiven is he really  isn’t the bad guy there . I mean he’s functioning as the mayor there and punishing the three guys that defaced that prostitute.  It’s just that the women paid for the bounty/hit and well chaos ensued.  

 

Little Bill didn't punish the two guys. He's going to give the horses to the bar owner then just tells the hookers he whipped them. He also beat Ned to death.

 

He may not be the bad guy, but he ain't the good guy either. He also didn't give out fair justice and it got him killed. 

 

"Deserves got nothing to do with it"

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14 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

 

Little Bill didn't punish the two guys. He's going to give the horses to the bar owner then just tells the hookers he whipped them. He also beat Ned to death.

 

He may not be the bad guy, but he ain't the good guy either. He also didn't give out fair justice and it got him killed. 

 

"Deserves got nothing to do with it"

I’ll admit to not watching it in 10 years or so. It’s been a while so I need to revisit.

 

Frances Fisher role as one of the outraged whores in that film is one of my faves.  I always get a kick out of how Eastwood rises up and becomes a totally different person after he drinks alcohol.

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1 hour ago, rns90 said:

  I always get a kick out of how Eastwood rises up and becomes a totally different person after he drinks alcohol.

 
“I was drunk back then”…

 

Proceeds to get drunk!

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On 2/27/2025 at 2:36 PM, Bink said:

I'm posting this here as just an FYI--I have decided to take a step back from TR with this account and have put in a delete request. I'm sticking around, but am no longer going to be managing this. If someone wants to take it over, I'd recommend downloading the spreadsheet.

I am sorry to hear this.  I’ll miss you.  Do enjoy your time away.

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3 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

 

I forgot maybe my favorite Hackman role, The Royal Tenenbaums

 

Hilarious

I was thinking of watching that one again over the weekend. It’s funny how they are so damn dysfunctional.   They literally hate his guts and he’s pretty much a lying sack of shit for most of the movie.
 

 That was a good year for Hackman , he also did Heist.

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On 2/28/2025 at 3:18 PM, OILERMAN said:

 

Little Bill didn't punish the two guys. He's going to give the horses to the bar owner then just tells the hookers he whipped them. He also beat Ned to death.

 

He may not be the bad guy, but he ain't the good guy either. He also didn't give out fair justice and it got him killed. 

 

"Deserves got nothing to do with it"

Ok, so I watched this instead as a Gene Hackman tribute.  Damn what a film. (Warning;  long post on Unforgiven follows)

 

Anyway, you’re right .  Honestly, if he gave fair justice all the way in the beginning of the film after the whore got cut up , none of this would have happened.  And in the end he did “deserve” it.

 

This is also a truth and fiction film or myth vs reality (of cowboys/killers old west).  There are way too many bullshiters in this film.  The worst is probably the kid.    The way that Little Bill just basically tore apart the myth of English Bob killing that guy was ace. At the end of that you can see the Saul Rubinek character “oh shit I’ve been following and listening to the wrong guy”.

 

The appeal of Little Bill is this : he’s a no nonsense tell it like it is type .  In truth, he probably is closest to the traditional “good guy” in the western.

 

The William Munny character is interesting is that he seems to almost be ashamed of all his deeds of the past and tries to downplay them as opposed to the others in this film who can’t wait to brag how great they were.  It’s almost as if he seeks/sought repentance for all those horrible things he did.  
 

The only reason we got a glimpse of the real William Munny is because of the honor amongst thieves ethos.  The ending sequence where he goes into the saloon and he doesn’t say much and he just looks at the people in the saloon is great stuff.  And it’s dark, rainy and there’s like a fire outside and it’s basically hell on earth and the Devil is back.

 

Last point : this is a great score.  I enjoyed the acoustic sounds in the film while these guys are riding along in the wheat fields and whatnot.  

 

 

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