Jamalisms Posted January 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 I added AJ Brown splits last week to disprove the idea that with / without AJ Brown is meaningful and proves something while with / without Henry is nonsense ... and I did it last week because that's when people started suddenly sharing AJ Brown splits, fewer splits and with less statistical change, as if it was somehow a big counter. In fact, the AJ Brown splits are less clear-cut and the stats without Henry but with AJ Brown are still a big change. It's still quite obviously all about showing Henry's effect. Perhaps remove your foot from your mouth after removing your head from your ass and you'll notice something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 2 hours ago, OILERMAN said: Why are the parameters changing and AJ being added This useless totally biased thread was supposed to simply be with or without Henry, don’t try and validate it now Because people asked for it? No parameters changed... just the comparison y'all asked for being shown. whats so difficult to understand here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 10-2 with Brown 1-3 without Brown Bye! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 38 minutes ago, titanruss said: Because people asked for it? No parameters changed... just the comparison y'all asked for being shown. whats so difficult to understand here? Wait. Who asked for it? Far as I can tell even the intent is to "disprove" something that threatens the agenda. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 5 hours ago, Jamalisms said: Trying to add more comparisons, since people have been hyping AJ Brown's absence. Now you have the splits. You really don't have to do that. You said w/Henry vs wo/Henry. Next thing they will want to compare the stats of Henry w/Simmons 8 games vs Henry wo/Simmons vs the Titans w/Henry w/Simmons... You have to earn a living. Some advice. Never fight a strawman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 34 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Wait. Who asked for it? Far as I can tell even the intent is to "disprove" something that threatens the agenda. I'm doing it with and without Henry because I said a would! Oh yea and Brown too! now that a bunch of data has come out about how valuable he is too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 39 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Wait. Who asked for it? Far as I can tell even the intent is to "disprove" something that threatens the agenda. people asked for AJs stats.. or at least said it was a bigger loss with AJ.. so here you go. He showed it. there's really no difference in the request or what you'd expect his answer to be. Jamal's been honest about it the whole time. any vitriol from others about it comes off as petty and insecure really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 36 minutes ago, titanruss said: people asked for AJs stats.. or at least said it was a bigger loss with AJ.. so here you go. He showed it. there's really no difference in the request or what you'd expect his answer to be. Jamal's been honest about it the whole time. any vitriol from others about it comes off as petty and insecure really. What are you saying? The claim was that he's including AJ because people asked for it but I don't remember anyone asking for it. Saying that AJ is more important than Henry is not the same as literally asking someone to do anything. He just felt the need to do it because he didn't like how people saying that took away from his Henry stance. Further evidence of what this thread is really about. You know I'm right on this, you just don't care because you think it serves you. At least be honest and admit where this is coming from. And I'm not being vitriolic, I'm asking you questions that you can't answer without revealing you know I'm right so you feel attacked. If multiple people really asked him to do this then list them and shut me up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClown Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: What are you saying? The claim was that he's including AJ because people asked for it but I don't remember anyone asking for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzTitan Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 This place honestly makes me laugh in so many unintended ways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 I think the easiest way to finish this is simply to look at the results. Will the team be better w/o Henry? PPG: 28.4 -> 20.5 More Points Per Game Yards: 377.5 -> 300.0 More Yards Per Game Pass: 229.5 -> 162.6 More Pass Per Game Run: 147.6 -> 137.4. More Run Per Game Drives ending in: TD: 29.3% -> 22.2% More FG: 18.3% -> 13.6% Better 3/out: 15.9% -> 19.8% Less Turnover: 13.4% -> 16.0% Less I added words to show what the numbers mean. In all the want more of, the Titans had more with Henry. The areas where the Titans didn't want increase, they increased with Henry out. The answer is obvious. The Titans are a better team with Derrick Henry playing. The Titans with a healthy Derrick Henry can beat any team in the league. The Packers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClown Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: . If multiple people really asked him to do this then list them and shut me up. No one asked, oldschool was trying to argue the fact that the "offensive fall out" has to do with injuries to the WR position more than Henry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, AJClown said: I'm not going through a whole thread. Point to the posts from people asking for a comparison of the team without Henry vs the team without AJ. Where is the public outcry that forced Jamal to expand his comparison? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, AJClown said: Everyone with a brain has correctly argued that the offensive fall out had more to do with the receivers being out and the OL being bad. That's a separate argument. This thread is supposed to be about dispassionately tracking offensive data not furthering an agenda remember? At least that's what I keep being told I'm specifically addressing @titanruss 's claim that Jamal started including Brown because "people asked for it". Even you seem to agree with me going by your first sentence. INB4 Russ claims that he never said that and I'm lying about him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 Henry and AJB are valuable pieces to the offense. There is no denying how bad the Titans were without Julio, AJB, Henry etc on the field. RT simply had no where to go with the ball and no where to look for help. It's pretty clear though that the Titans started to figure out how to replace Henry's production pretty effectively. I don't think you can say the same for AJB in the passing game. What actually matters is that they are both soon to be back and healthy just in time for the playoff run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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