Mainstream national political media is right wing

[kgsTitan]

I see that chart as being pretty accurate. The natural left lean of the broadcast, legacy media, especially in the past decade is because they're hiring so many young activist types to try to attract young viewers in order to secure their future. That's especially the case with the NY Times and NBC.

 

Once those young activists get in the door, they're taking over your operation....period. They'll intimidate everyone with threats and accusations of racism/bigotry, and drive out any middle of the road voices. Bari Weiss had a really good piece on this a year or so ago.

 

They've dug their own graves by allowing this. 50 years ago, 75% of Americans trusted the news. Now it's probably 20%-25%.

And in those responses, they're not talking about the extreme, partisan new sources like Breitbart, OAN, Slate, or HuffPost....they're talking about the NYTimes, Washington Post, ABC, CBS...the main broadcast news sources.

Those brands used to be above the fray and trusted by almost all. But they blew that. 

 

Edited April 14, 2022 by kgsTitan

[ChemEngr79]

10 hours ago, El Guapo said:

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/media-literacy/2021/should-you-trust-media-bias-charts/
 

Take it all with a grain of salt. Reliability is an issue not addressed in those “ratings” and cnn clearly sucks in that category.

 

Interesting that you never show Allsides Chart. I would if I knew cut and paste. Maybe you can do it for me. For all your rantings and dismissal of fox news, it is no more conservative than just about every news source you consider reliable and unbiased is liberal….

 

So you we will continue to paste articles that are aligned with what we believe and accuse the others of being swayed by what we see as truly biased. So be it.

 

Here is all that matters. Joe and the progressives running the country are going to take a beating in 22 and 24. Independents are sour on this idiot in chart. You can blame inflation and crime and the border issues on others all you want but its squarely on your present administration buffoonery, more interested in hiring lightweights such as mayor pete and others , rather than competency.  
 

 

 

Here is the Allsides chart:

 

The Allsides chart doesn't address the reliability of the news source, which is why I use the other chart which explicitly does measure reliability and plots it on the Y-axis. From your link:

 

 

I don't care if the news source is left or right leaning, if they are not providing factual content then I am not interested.

 

The news sources at the top of the plot are more factual with less opinion/spin. Down either the right or left branches you enter echo chambers. It is pretty simple. 

 

 

 

Edited April 14, 2022 by ChemEngr79

[pat]

The NYTimes Opinion section which published Tom Cotton is not extreme leftist, validating @luvyablue256's premise.

[OILERMAN]

7 hours ago, pat said:

 validating @luvyablue256's premise.

 

That's been proven without a doubt 

[Little Earl]

Yes, it is known fact that the media is left wing bias.   Now the left is all uptight over the possibility of Elon Musk taking over Twitter.   The left does not like free speech.   They only like it when fellow lefties like Bezos buys the Washington Post.

[Starkiller]

1 hour ago, Little Earl said:

Yes, it is known fact that the media is left wing bias.   Now the left is all uptight over the possibility of Elon Musk taking over Twitter.   The left does not like free speech.   They only like it when fellow lefties like Bezos buys the Washington Post.

Obviously the mainstream media appears to conservatives to have a liberal bias. They don’t demonize gays or blacks or Latinos or any other minorities like they see routinely on Fox News. 

[El Guapo]

16 hours ago, ChemEngr79 said:

 

Here is the Allsides chart:

 

The Allsides chart doesn't address the reliability of the news source, which is why I use the other chart which explicitly does measure reliability and plots it on the Y-axis. From your link:

 

 

I don't care if the news source is left or right leaning, if they are not providing factual content then I am not interested.

 

The news sources at the top of the plot are more factual with less opinion/spin. Down either the right or left branches you enter echo chambers. It is pretty simple. 

 

 

 

So reliability means its ok to ignore stories that harm your chosen candidate? Or have a boss that instructs not to cover anything that hurts your candidate? Or glorify a NY governor who actually sucked and was a slimeball? Or pursue fictional accounts of collusion because you hate the subject? And refuse to ackowledge it? Or have the head of programming claim Hunter's laptop was not covered because it was not interesting?

 

Give me a break....

[IsntLifeFunny]

2 hours ago, Little Earl said:

Yes, it is known fact that the media is left wing bias.   Now the left is all uptight over the possibility of Elon Musk taking over Twitter.   The left does not like free speech.   They only like it when fellow lefties like Bezos buys the Washington Post.

I don’t recall anyone liking Bezos buying the  Washington Post. 

[IsntLifeFunny]

1 hour ago, El Guapo said:

So reliability means its ok to ignore stories that harm your chosen candidate? Or have a boss that instructs not to cover anything that hurts your candidate? Or glorify a NY governor who actually sucked and was a slimeball? Or pursue fictional accounts of collusion because you hate the subject? And refuse to ackowledge it? Or have the head of programming claim Hunter's laptop was not covered because it was not interesting?

 

Give me a break....

That’s a lot to unpack in one paragraph. 
 

I do think Biden was treated a bit with the kid gloves. I’m fine with it, because the alternative was giving Trump a second term. In the realm of fucked up things, Biden’s skeletons pale in comparison so it made logical sense. Also, that was their mea culpa for how they treated Clinton in the run up to 16 where the email investigation was front and center. Try to argue otherwise, doc. 
 

 

[Little Earl]

10 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

That’s a lot to unpack in one paragraph. 
 

I do think Biden was treated a bit with the kid gloves. I’m fine with it, because the alternative was giving Trump a second term. In the realm of fucked up things, Biden’s skeletons pale in comparison so it made logical sense. Also, that was their mea culpa for how they treated Clinton in the run up to 16 where the email investigation was front and center. Try to argue otherwise, doc. 
 

 

 

It was the leftist media that held the infamous "grab her pussy" tape until the most damaging time.  

[pat]

22 minutes ago, Little Earl said:

 

It was the leftist media that held the infamous "grab her pussy" tape until the most damaging time.  

When embarrassing a cad with his own words is enough to be considered “leftist”, it shows again how skewed the frame of reference has become.

 

Used to be leftists organized food, childcare, and healthcare.  Now all it takes is stating an inconvenient fact to an authoritarian.

[IsntLifeFunny]

1 hour ago, Little Earl said:

 

It was the leftist media that held the infamous "grab her pussy" tape until the most damaging time.  

It shows your opinion of women that that’s what you took from the situation. 

[Little Earl]

3 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

It shows your opinion of women that that’s what you took from the situation. 

 

Seriously, you cant see that they purposefully held onto the tape, and timed the release to do the most damage?  Btw, most people saw this for what it was, stupid bravado locker room talk.    

[Little Earl]

56 minutes ago, pat said:

When embarrassing a cad with his own words is enough to be considered “leftist”, it shows again how skewed the frame of reference has become.

 

Used to be leftists organized food, childcare, and healthcare.  Now all it takes is stating an inconvenient fact to an authoritarian.

 

Used to be that journalists would release damaging info when they got it, not hold it until a week before the election.  Now they hide or ignore it when it goes against the Democrat.

[IsntLifeFunny]

7 minutes ago, Little Earl said:

 

Used to be that journalists would release damaging info when they got it, not hold it until a week before the election.  Now they hide or ignore it when it goes against the Democrat.

You do remember 2016, yes? The email scandal, which I argued for potential criminal indictment for negligence on this platform, was the headline leading up to the elections.