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The missed safety call in OT


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1 hour ago, oldschool said:

 

What about Fulton mugging Metcalf late in the 4th? The only legit complaint was the spot on the Carson run. Everything else just typical fan bitching about refs

 The fact this one is after a win is even more absurd.

Yes, when that happened I said they could have called DPI.

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The officiating in this game really didn't impact the outcome IMO.  It's never great - the NFL is always inconsistent on judgement calls.

 

I do think the Jones overturn was correct based on the replay and the rule (I honestly did not know the heel has to come down in bounds on that type of catch).  I do think the Wilson play in OT was a safety albeit the NFL seems to consistently go out of their way to give the ball carrier/QB the benefit of the doubt on forward progress.  It's certainly not as egregious as Jeff Triplette's forward progress ruling when Derrick Johnson crushed Mariota on a blitz in the 2017 playoff game.....

 

The Carson spot to give Seattle a phantom 1st down was blown.  Of course Seattle failed to convert the next 3rd down and punted.

 

Yeah, Fulton probably committed DPI on Metcalf in the 4th but Metcalf had been a bitch all day so he was not likely to get a call. 

 

Honestly, the two penalties that actually did affect the outcome were correct calls.  Lewis false start when Seattle was going to go for it on 4th and 1 where Seattle could have milked more time at worst in the late 4th.  Then the Adams roughing call on Tannehill in OT that flipped the field position significantly.

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2 hours ago, oldschool said:

@Mythos27 I'll also add for the record I thought the forward progress call was wrong. I know the Ref has a ton of leeway to make that call but typically you let guys who are mobile attempt to work themselves out of trouble. The ref was too quick on the draw.

Lol what? They waited for him to chuck the ball to blow the whistle. 

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10 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

Lol what? They waited for him to chuck the ball to blow the whistle. 

 

Exactly. They let the play run and then had a conference afterwards to decide what they wanted to call. If the ref thought is forward progress was stopped he would have blown the play dead then. They just didn't want the game to end on the refs calling a safety.

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46 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

Lol what? They waited for him to chuck the ball to blow the whistle. 

 

Sometimes what you think you hear is not accurate. He may have been late with the whistle but that doesn't mean he didn't make the call on forward progress when it happened. How stupid is it to actually think a ref waited to see if Wilson would escape before calling forward progress which happened a few seconds earlier? You are a better poster than this to come here with this nonsense.

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3 hours ago, Yoshimitsu said:

Out of curiosity, why do they have that rule where the heel must also be down if they allow toe taps when movie forward out of bounds?  Did a past play completely screw someone that’s on that rule committee to the point it was pushed through or is this one of those weird rules that has lasted that doesnt make a ton of sense? 

I guess the heel applies to catching the ball moving forward but because of physics and physiology it's impossible for the heel to come into play.

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6 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

Sometimes what you think you hear is not accurate. He may have been late with the whistle but that doesn't mean he didn't make the call on forward progress when it happened. How stupid is it to actually think a ref waited to see if Wilson would escape before calling forward progress which happened a few seconds earlier? You are a better poster than this to come here with this nonsense.

A lot less stupid than your supposition that they called forward progress lol. It’s obvious. No one here agrees with you. You aren’t smarter than basically the totality of TR. You aren’t really that smart to begin with, but that’s a different conversation. Either way, we all saw it, and it’s right there on video. Wilson does a full 360 in the end zone and chucked up a prayer before they blew the whistle. 

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11 hours ago, nine said:

I assume they called him down at the one because that's where he was when Adeyini first grabbed his arm....so technically, the intial contact occurred outside the end zone.

 

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But I agree that had Wilson managed to keep his balance and wriggle free instead of going down, the officials let the play go and that "in the grasp" whistle doesn't happen.

 

If that motherfucker makes a completion after that point, they're gonna let it ride. They didn't blow the play dead. They only said he was down after the fact, which is bullshit. 

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8 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

 

A lot less stupid than your supposition that they called forward progress lol. It’s obvious. No one here agrees with you. You aren’t smarter than basically the totality of TR. You aren’t really that smart to begin with, but that’s a different conversation. Either way, we all saw it, and it’s right there on video. Wilson does a full 360 in the end zone and chucked up a prayer before they blew the whistle. 

 

I'm smarter than homers who bitch about the refs every game, even during wins. The ref called forward progress. He told everyone. The fact you can't wrap your head around why there was a delay between when it occurred and when the whistle blew doesn't mean some nefarious act took place.

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5 minutes ago, japan said:

I guess the heel applies to catching the ball moving forward but because of physics and physiology it's impossible for the heel to come into play.

It’s certainly an interesting situation. I think the idea is that if you toe tap and then step out it shows you had full possession and then your next step goes out whereas Jones had possession but did not make another step before his heel hit out of bounds. If they saw white under his shoe it’s the right call. 

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2 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

 

A lot less stupid than your supposition that they called forward progress lol. It’s obvious. No one here agrees with you. You aren’t smarter than basically the totality of TR. You aren’t really that smart to begin with, but that’s a different conversation. Either way, we all saw it, and it’s right there on video. Wilson does a full 360 in the end zone and chucked up a prayer before they blew the whistle. 

If he completes that ball, they're not taking it away from him either. It's utter nonsense to say it wasn't a safety. It was also intentional fucking grounding. 

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