Biden White House: Year 4

[IsntLifeFunny]

24 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

Prominent members of the media including Nate Silver have completely misrepresented the report from DOE this weekend. 

They're acting as if a low level of confidence report is some smoking gun. If they had a smoking gun it wouldn't be low level lol. That isn't to say I think they're incorrect, but as you mentioned the media is reacting to this in such a manner as if the report is declarative when it really isn't. It's at best a lack of understanding how these reports and conclusions work. 

Edited February 27, 2023 by IsntLifeFunny

[El Guapo]

7 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

That's not how I remember it playing out. The people who were shouted down were the ones being overtly political and asserting speculation as fact. 

 

Also, the idea we funded Gain of Function is not truthful. They could have taken money we gave them for other research to do that, but that was not our intent. Now, with that said, I agree going forward there should be much stricter oversight for any funding going into this type of research if any at all. The fact is though we know these pandemics are most likely to originate in wet markets, which is why we were funding research there in the first place. 

Funny, there were people banned from twitter for questioning where it started. This article points out that leftist media like vox and slate and the guardian lead the shouting down. It was political from the beginning as a tool of the left.

 

https://reason.com

[IsntLifeFunny]

11 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

Funny, there were people banned from twitter for questioning where it started. This article points out that leftist media like vox and slate and the guardian lead the shouting down. It was political from the beginning as a tool of the left.

 

https://reason.com

Oh dear heavens people banned from Twitter! What is the world coming to?? 

[IsntLifeFunny]

I don't do social media so I don't really care. I think it was a bad move on their part to stifle discussion, but you have to remember the people saying this shit were knee deep in Qanon and other ridiculous bullshit so I can at least appreciate those companies wanting to protect their brand. If some overlap happened that shouldn't have well then that sucks and needs to be dealt with. 

Edited February 27, 2023 by IsntLifeFunny

[Starkiller]

Twitter had a very clear no Covid misinformation policy. They blocked a lot of people who were calling it a lab leak.

 

The problem wasn't that they were pushing a message that was possible. The problem was they they were pushing a message that had zero evidence. You also can't go on Wikipedia and publish something without evidence, whether its true or not.

[titanruss]

On 2/6/2023 at 10:03 AM, El Guapo said:

We are never going to be Europe, douche bag. We have automobiles. We are never going to take trains for shorter distances. You can insult all you want but the use of trains is down not just because we have less trains but because it is inconvenient, slow, and expensive and we have alternatives. Its ok to disagree but your insulting nature obviously shows you are just a plain, unlikable, fucking asshole. In other words, another liberal.

 

Hop on a train going 200+ with legroom for days, wide seats with 45 degree+ recline, complete control of your luggage the whole trip, food carts, coffee and snack girls, plenty of bathrooms, free internet the whole way, desks to work on, a super fast in and out of the station, and more!! ... and you can cross the whole state of TN faster than a whole flight experience with security and check ins and wall that BS... and you dont have to wait on your luggage.

 

Why so intentionally stupid?

 

Trains are faster total trip for just about anywhere . ...WAYYYYY more convenient than ariplanes...WAYYYYY cheaper than planes or even driving that distance.

 

Travel somewhere. You are getting made fun of because you deserve it. You have no facts you know nothing about trains, you know nothing about planes or cars or any transportation... yet the evil morons you worship told you to hate trains so you do.

 

BTW... Everybody I've ever met loves me dawg. I come here to get the sweet sweet therapy of making asshole people like you who start it with others feel like shit.,, you absolute embarrassment to your family.

 

Get some life experience and come back and apologize.

Edited February 28, 2023 by titanruss

[El Guapo]

Where was this? Not in the US. Not with Pete in charge of transportation. Not with the current spread of where people live. And not worth the money.  

 

Europe is not the US.

[El Guapo]

Life experiences? By the time you were born I had  life experiences that you will never have. Join me and Funny for lunch and I will share them with you. I deserve the right to determine whether you are likable or nut until after.

[MadMax]

Now we've sunk to epeen contest levels.   Nice.

[El Guapo]

On 2/27/2023 at 4:09 PM, Starkiller said:

Twitter had a very clear no Covid misinformation policy. They blocked a lot of people who were calling it a lab leak.

 

The problem wasn't that they were pushing a message that was possible. The problem was they they were pushing a message that had zero evidence. You also can't go on Wikipedia and publish something without evidence, whether its true or not.

You mean like pee gate? Collusion? Mostly peaceful protests? Etc? Come off it. Social media is mostly opinions, many absurd and outrageous. They allow our worst enemies privileges. You quote the ones you like. And it wasn’t just social media. It was the Post and Times. And others.  Like Jon Stewart.  The same news outlets that ignore Matt Taibbi. No, you guys are totally wrong about this. Dont forget the interference from intelligence organizations over these outlets- scary as hell.

 

And you still insists it was because they were all from Qanon. Well guess what, those crazy fuckers were more in line than you guys.

[begooode]

3 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

And you still insists it was because they were all from Qanon. Well guess what, those crazy fuckers were more in line than you guys.

 

https://theconversation.com/angry-social-media-posts-are-never-a-good-idea-how-to-keep-them-in-check-71016

[Starkiller]

29 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

You mean like pee gate? Collusion? Mostly peaceful protests? Etc? Come off it. Social media is mostly opinions, many absurd and outrageous. They allow our worst enemies privileges. You quote the ones you like. And it wasn’t just social media. It was the Post and Times. And others.  Like Jon Stewart.  The same news outlets that ignore Matt Taibbi. No, you guys are totally wrong about this. Dont forget the interference from intelligence organizations over these outlets- scary as hell.

 

And you still insists it was because they were all from Qanon. Well guess what, those crazy fuckers were more in line than you guys.

Social media platforms have a user agreement that everyone has to agree to in order to post. It’s bad for their business to have users posting racist shit, or conspiracy theories, or whatever other objectionable material. They can delete posts and ban users at their discretion. 
 

If you post your opinion that taxes should be lower or that the Eagles got screwed by a bad call in the Super Bowl on Twitter, nothing is going to happen to you. If you post that black people are inferior or that China released the virus to kill people, you are going to get banned (pre-Elon, anyway).

 

This isn’t free speech. Social media is privately owned. There’s no 1st Amendment rights here. They block objectionable material on the principle that it’s bad for their business.

 

As for news sources, of course they don’t report bullshit stories. Nor do they post stories without evidence to back it up, because that what real journalism is. Your right wing media people can report all the unsubstantiated bullshit they want because it’s just propaganda, not journalism.

Edited February 28, 2023 by Starkiller

[El Guapo]

On 2/27/2023 at 4:09 PM, Starkiller said:

50 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

Social media platforms have a user agreement that everyone has to agree to in order to post. It’s bad for their business to have users posting racist shit, or conspiracy theories, or whatever other objectionable material. They can delete posts and ban users at their discretion. 
 

If you post your opinion that taxes should be lower or that the Eagles got screwed by a bad call in the Super Bowl on Twitter, nothing is going to happen to you. If you post that black people are inferior or that China released the virus to kill people, you are going to get banned (pre-Elon, anyway).

 

This isn’t free speech. Social media is privately owned. There’s no 1st Amendment rights here. They block objectionable material on the principle that it’s bad for their business.

 

As for news sources, of course they don’t report bullshit stories. Nor do they post stories without evidence to back it up, because that what real journalism is. Your right wing media people can report all the unsubstantiated bullshit they want because it’s just propaganda, not journalism.

Social media is by nature opinion. They do not fact check. They banned stories that they disagree with. And if you were honest, you would realize that your favorite news sources have realized they bent corners and published unsubstantiated stories- in other words, lies that they were politically in allegiance with.  And it seems more likely every day that these  so called opinion pieces were more factual than the bs that were actually propagated .  So who the fuck is in charge of fact checking minute by minute as stories come out?  Who the fuck decides what is factual? The whole point is that those decisions were made unilaterally and in retrospect by hacks who knew nothing but followed a narrative propagated by the left for political purposes. Argue all you want but to quote my least favorite person of all time, “ History will absolve me”……

[Starkiller]

1 hour ago, El Guapo said:

Social media is by nature opinion. They do not fact check.

They actually do fact check in certain circumstances. They also check for derogatory content.

 

Social media is what the corporate overlords decide it is. Facebook makes their own policy. So does Twitter. You and I get no say over their policies. You only get to quit using the service and go to another if you don’t like it. 

 

 

1 hour ago, El Guapo said:

They banned stories that they disagree with.

They blocked posts that they decided were inherently negative enough for their business model that they chose to remove them. And they banned users who posted enough negative posts to qualify those posters as harmful to their business model.

 

 

1 hour ago, El Guapo said:

And if you were honest, you would realize that your favorite news sources have realized they bent corners and published unsubstantiated stories- in other words, lies that they were politically in allegiance with.  

Most mainstream news sources deal in fact when they are labeled as something other than opinion. They do produce plenty of “unsubstantiated” stories, but those stories rely on unnamed sources and announce that fact clearly. Sometimes they are wrong and we know that’s true, but more often there is something to them. 
 

As for bias, news stories from the “liberal media” is often as openly critical of Democrats as they are of Republicans. But you wouldn’t know because you only pay attention to the right wing propaganda.

 

 

1 hour ago, El Guapo said:

And it seems more likely every day that these  so called opinion pieces were more factual than the bs that were actually propagated.

That explains why you constantly post opinion pieces and treat them as if they are actual news…

 

 

1 hour ago, El Guapo said:

So who the fuck is in charge of fact checking minute by minute as stories come out?  Who the fuck decides what is factual? The whole point is that those decisions were made unilaterally and in retrospect by hacks who knew nothing but followed a narrative propagated by the left for political purposes. Argue all you want but to quote my least favorite person of all time, “ History will absolve me”……

Again, Twitter, Facebook, et al make their own decisions on what to block and what to flag as questionable. Decisions were made unilaterally because that how most all decisions are made.
 

Mostly they showed restraint in their editorial power, probably too much restraint as they let way too much harmful bullshit stick around. But inevitably you guys are going to see every action against an extremist nut job or Nazi as a liberal plot.
 

You think Parlor or Truth Social or Stormfront or Conservapedia or whatever other social media sites that conservatives congregate in now is somehow out there protecting liberals' rights to post anything they want? Are you going to start decrying their attacks on free speech or whatever? Get real.

Edited March 1, 2023 by Starkiller

[El Guapo]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11805431/FBI-director-says-COVID-leaked-Wuhan-lab-likely-potential-lab-incident.html
 

Now what? You argued against this a fee weeks ago.