Biden White House: Year 4

[Titans279]

3 minutes ago, oldschool said:

Read this thread.... the idea canceling student debt is even remotely a priority is why the democrats suck and its a big reason why they are poised to lose to an authoritarian crazed party that should be at its weakest point since becoming a party.

 

 

 

I feel like I've been saying this. It never made sense to me. Most people don't even have student loans, and of the ones that do most of them are not unmanageable.

 

I think student debt relief is a way more popular idea on Twitter because Twitter is dominated by Democrats with student loans and the idea that it's a panacea for Democrats follows from that.

[Starkiller]

Ignoring what your voters want is a really good way to lose those voters…

[oldschool]

2 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

Ignoring what your voters want is a really good way to lose those voters…

 

the voters that don't vote? fuck them. Do you care about the blue collar rural white voters Democrats have been bleeding for over a decade? 

[WG53]

3 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

Ignoring what your voters want is a really good way to lose those voters…

You can't say that! Rogue, Luvya, Tgo, etc will start blaming you for all their mistakes!

[Starkiller]

Just now, oldschool said:

the voters that don't vote? fuck them. Do you care about the blue collar rural white voters Democrats have been bleeding for over a decade? 

Well they sure as hell won’t vote if they feel like they are being ignored.

 

And I’m all for doing more for workers. But that’s a separate issue and generally requires 60 votes in the senate.

[Titans279]

16 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

Ignoring what your voters want is a really good way to lose those voters…

 

The Twitter users clamoring for canceling student debt are all probably going to vote for Democrats anyway. You're just ignoring that most young people don't have student debt. Why would they base their vote or non-vote on that issue?

[Starkiller]

34 minutes ago, Titans279 said:

The Twitter users clamoring for canceling student debt are all probably going to vote for Democrats anyway. You're just ignoring that most young people don't have student debt. Why would they base their vote or non-vote on that issue?

It’s the midterms. Lots of them probably won’t vote. Especially if they feel like their interests are being ignored.

Edited April 14, 2022 by Starkiller

[Jamalisms]

3 hours ago, oldschool said:

70 is way too young. You could argue 80 is as well depending on the individual.

 

Either you have to set it early enough to (within reason) catch the earliest or you need to do regular testing somehow.

[Jamalisms]

38 minutes ago, Titans279 said:

 

The Twitter users clamoring for canceling student debt are all probably going to vote for Democrats anyway. You're just ignoring that most young people don't have student debt. Why would they base their vote or non-vote on that issue?

 

I suspect a good percent don't vote despite voting last election. Good luck counting on them.

[VaTitan]

1 hour ago, oldschool said:

@Titans279 not sure whats funny about my previous post. Its a fact there are plenty of mentally sound people in their 70 and early 80s. Durbin is 77, Angus King is 78. Are they unfit to serve? where do you draw the line? Your real issue is that a bunch of old white people still run the country and you want younger voices at the table. I'm all in favor of consecutive term limits for congress but setting an arbitrary age max is a stupid idea as whatever age you set as the cap will cut out many capable people unless its 85+ which won't have the desired affect you are after.

We need more than “mentally sound” ppl governing our country.

 

No one is at their peak at 70….no one.  There’s a reason people get sent off to pasture in the private sector….where performance and accountability matter

[LongTimeFan]

If those 70 and 80 yr olds are still sane, they can be used as consultants. 

 

As for student debt, if the Dems are dumb enough to pass something to gain 400,000 votes, please do as they will lose 40 million votes from sensible people.

[headhunter]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-democrats-absolutely-terrified-poll-000306776.html

[oldschool]

17 minutes ago, VaTitan said:

We need more than “mentally sound” ppl governing our country.

 

No one is at their peak at 70….no one.  There’s a reason people get sent off to pasture in the private sector….where performance and accountability matter

 

Who do you think runs the private sector? You are just talking out of your ass like normal.

[LongTimeFan]

13 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

Who do you think runs the private sector? You are just talking out of your ass like normal.

Ah. Here's the condescending prick we all know.

[VaTitan]

14 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

Who do you think runs the private sector? You are just talking out of your ass like normal.

the private sectors is not run by 70yr olds.  Maybe 50s/60s….but most hang it up in their 60s or are forced out.