tgo Posted January 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Mythos27 said: I gotta say tgo is a smart dude and generally knows his shit. He's just a radical moderate which I didn't know was a thing lol. I've had that guy on ignore for years now, he just follows me around calling me names. And the idea that I'm not a Democrat is laughable considering that I've given more money to Democrats than probably everyone here combined. I've donated to the DSCC, Biden campaign, DCCC, Ossoff/Warnock campaigns, Get Mitch fund, etc. and I'm not a Democrat? Give me a break. I voted for a progressive I didn't like in order to oust the Trump boot-licker Republican congressman in my district. People like to call me a moderate Republican because I don't like AOC and the Squad. That's like saying George Bush is a moderate Democrat because he opposes people like Louie Gohmert or Boebert or whatever other radical know-nothings in that party. oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted January 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 It’s always amusing the visceral reaction people on the far left have when AOC is criticized. It just proves the point that the whole thing with her is some pop personality cult. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 24 minutes ago, tgo said: It’s always amusing the visceral reaction people on the far left have when AOC is criticized. It just proves the point that the whole thing with her is some pop personality cult. Wg53 is a hack. Its like arguing politics with your 11 year nephew. tgo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 51 minutes ago, oldschool said: Wg53 is a hack. Its like arguing politics with your 11 year nephew. Your take on most things is laughable. All you do is project your inadequacies onto other people and be generally pretentious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitansFan777 Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, tgo said: It’s always amusing the visceral reaction people on the far left have when AOC is criticized. It just proves the point that the whole thing with her is some pop personality cult. Eh overall I like her for the most part, though she certainly has some faults and I do wish she’d be a bit smarter in the all-or-nothing approach she has on a lot of things. I think she will get better with a little more time, and I think in a few years she will be a solid leader within the party. I could definitely see her leaving Congress at some point to focus on her causes in a different Avenue, however. tgo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, luvyablue256 said: The old saying "give them enough rope to hang themselves" comes to mind I'd be fine with that approach if we didn't have a history of giving them enough rope to land their feet on the ground and use said rope to choke us half to death. Edited January 31, 2021 by Mythos27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvyablue256 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 18 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: I'd be fine with that approach if we didn't have a history of giving them enough rope to land their feet on the ground and use said rope to choke us half to death. Give me some examples of this happening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, luvyablue256 said: Give me some examples of this happening 2010 mid-terms. Bent over backwards for a year and a half begging for Republican support. They laughed in our faces, proceeded to win the house, and effectively stymied Obama for the rest of his presidency. IsntLifeFunny, and Starkiller 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvyablue256 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: 2010 mid-terms. Bent over backwards for a year and a half begging for Republican support. They laughed in our faces, proceeded to win the house, and effectively stymied Obama for the rest of his presidency. And you don't think Democratic leadership doesn't remember this, or everything that happened afterward? Edited January 31, 2021 by luvyablue256 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/01/27/biden-supreme-court-reform-463126 The Biden administration is moving forward with the creation of a bipartisan commission to study reforms to the Supreme Court and the federal judiciary. The commission will be housed under the purview of the White House Counsel’s office and filled out with the behind-the-scenes help of the Biden campaign’s lawyer Bob Bauer, who will co-chair the commission. Its specific mandate is still being decided. But, in a signal that the commission is indeed moving ahead, some members have already been selected, according to multiple people familiar with the discussions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 21 hours ago, tgo said: Biden also spent the entire primary and General Election running away from and denouncing her “Green New Deal” and “Defund the Police” and “Ban Fracking” bullshit. There is no question, NONE, that he would have lost badly to Trump had he not done so as effectively and firmly as he did. I'm happy with Biden but I wouldn't go overboard on what Biden did in the primary. He was literally taken under the Democratic establishment's wing and had his hand held through the primaries because he was embarrassing himself and on his way to getting steamrolled in the primaries. His campaign was on life support, which is easy to forget. IsntLifeFunny, Starkiller, and Mythos27 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 12 hours ago, luvyablue256 said: And you don't think Democratic leadership doesn't remember this, or everything that happened afterward? I'm sure they remember it. Schumer said as much. But remembering it and being competent/willing enough to avoid it are two different things. I have very little faith in the democratic party and for the life of me I can't understand why so many others have so much faith and act like I'm weird for distrusting them. They need to earn that trust back. oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted January 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 4 hours ago, OILERMAN said: I'm happy with Biden but I wouldn't go overboard on what Biden did in the primary. He was literally taken under the Democratic establishment's wing and had his hand held through the primaries because he was embarrassing himself and on his way to getting steamrolled in the primaries. His campaign was on life support, which is easy to forget. Taken under the establishment's wing? He is the establishment's wing. As I said from the beginning of the primary and what I was telling people in person as well, he was always poised to finish strong in Nevada and would win South Carolina and other diverse Southern states where he was heavily favored from the beginning. The only reason his campaign "was on life support" is that Iowa and New Hampshire went first instead of diverse states like South Carolina and Georgia and Florida. And yes I understand the Clyburn endorsement, blah blah, that's fine and well but he was leading heavily in SC even before that and has always been heavily favored there. Where Clyburn helped was making it not even close and then helping to push out Klobuchar and Buttigieg out of the moderate lane. OILERMAN, and oldschool 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) Biden was on the ropes and wasn’t the establishments top choice until they all united around him after it became clear it was Biden or Bernie. Edited January 31, 2021 by Titans279 OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted January 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Titans279 said: Biden was on the ropes and wasn’t the establishments top choice until they all united around him after it became clear it was Biden or Bernie. Orly? Who was the establishment's top choice? LOL - he had a fuck ton of establishment endorsements before that, like literally fucking hundreds of them. He was still leading the moderate candidates in *national* primary polling throughout the entire process. I think what you mean is that he wasn't the top choice of the whitey moderate primary voters in Iowa and New Hampshire. Edited January 31, 2021 by tgo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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