OILERMAN Posted November 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, cosmogo said: Good question what the issue with MM was last week, the commentator mentioned multiple times that the defense showed some looks which MM haven’t seen from the Colts before. Further the not existing running game and 3rd and long did their part as well. I noticed that MM don’t even look for the check down with Deion who was open at a lot of times and would have been easy completions. This raise the question why no adjustment was made during the game?! The plays were there, adjustments aren't needed when the plays are open Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 25 minutes ago, Starkiller said: In the end, he is just another mobile QB who isn’t capable of running an NFL offense. Certainly not to the level necessary to be considered a franchise QB. He is a good enough player to be able to win some games, but that’s pretty much it. No way, he proved in college he was a good passer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 The protection should be better, but the receivers are getting open Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboy Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 Didn’t PFF say it was the worst game of his career? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenIsLegend Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 Didn’t take Oman long at all to hop back on the Mariota hate wagon, full send! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 55 minutes ago, Starkiller said: Mariota remains as frustratingly inconsistent as he has always been. No one is denying that he can’t look good. He has always had good games. And he has always had plenty of physical talent. This is why he was such a highly regarded prospect. But his problems have remained the same in regards to his ability to make good reads. Top QBs have to be able to make good reads and the 1st read isn’t always going to be there. His college offense largely papered over this problem because he only had to read half the field. But his ability to run also hid this problem because if his 1st or even 2nd read wasn’t there he just took off and ran. He still does this, obviously, but this being the NFL his athleticism isn’t going to be enough on its own like it was in college. In the end, he is just another mobile QB who isn’t capable of running an NFL offense. Certainly not to the level necessary to be considered a franchise QB. He is a good enough player to be able to win some games, but that’s pretty much it. Lazy analysis. All the new age OCs cut the field in half. Hell Shanny sr did before anyone else 30 years ago. Mariota's issue isn't progressing through reads. It's being scared to make throws with anticipation too often and going into a shell when he throws an int. He's shown the ability to stand in the pocket and deliver the ball on time but doesn't do it game in and game out. Consistency, staying healthy, and pocket awareness are his biggest issues. Time is running out for him to fix all three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeater Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 The other thing that's entirely frustrating here is at some point a decision will have to be made and in the real world of the NFL it will be a difficult decision. If MM just continues to flash and doesn't stay consistent with 50/50 good games to bad, what do you do? 50/50 and hope may be the best option as your starter for a while. They guy that I'm looking for to be our true franchise QB is difficult to find. So much luck involved in drafting-If anyone saw Mahomes coming he would have been the number one pick regardless of who you had at QB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 2 hours ago, OILERMAN said: He cycled through reads? He didn't throw to wide open reads when it was the first read. This might be a worst problem. I don't even know what to say about it. He's done this his whole career and it's impossible to explain. After the INT he was useless he was so gun shy, something else he's done over his career. This is the bullshit that's just casually floated out there. It wasn't the focus of the point he was making, but just thrown in as a accepted fact. That's how a fanbase gets dumbed down. People don't know, but they read this and say it to their friends. Any one of us around regular fans is consider very knowledgeable, at least about the Titans. He cycled through reads? LMAO! Mariota stares at targets. We talk about it all the time. It's just bs. They need to call Jeff Fisher. Ask him to explain how to design a dummy playbook for Mariota. Give him half the field to read his play. The Titans could win out. Don't even confuse him with trying to make multiple reads. Put the responsibility on Lafleur to figure out who should be open. Tell him to run if his target isn't open and to slide. No more hurtling. No more tackling. No more stiff arming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 2 hours ago, OILERMAN said: Take what up with the author, I don't know what you;re talking about. If you think this breakdown somehow shows Mariota's strength in cycling through reads all I can do is laugh Don't pay any attention to oldstool. He's always trying to drop stink on somebody. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, Number9 said: Don't pay any attention to oldstool. He's always trying to drop stink on somebody. You've been dumbing down this board and others for years. At least Oman has an opinion he stands behind. You on the other waffle every 5 mins. Not to mention you've never shown any ability to understand the game's finer points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, oldschool said: You've been dumbing down this board and others for years. At least Oman has an opinion he stands behind. You on the other waffle every 5 mins. Not to mention you've never shown any ability to understand the game's finer points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 Yup....no doubt about it: Marcus was bad on Sunday. He’s been better this year than he was last year....but he’s still having his ups and downs. Prior to last week, he had three strong performances in a row, followed by a stinker. Inconsistent. It would be great if consistency could be fixed overnight just by flipping a light switch... or if we could see steady linear progress with improvement every single week. But it simply doesn’t work like that. Even the most consistent players aren’t great every single week; it’s a matter of peaks and valleys. You ultimately want the peaks to outnumber the valleys, with peaks that are sky-high and valleys that aren’t all that low. Mariota ain’t there yet. But like I said: this year has been better than last year. Not that this is any consolation when he plays poorly...but the fact is, this was his first bad game in a month. That’s a hell of a lot better than last year, when he couldn’t even put two good games back to back. It shows progress. Will Marcus ever develop the level of consistency needed to make this team successful? Hell, I don’t know. Last year was a big step back, and at this point he hasn’t recovered to the extent we hoped to see. But the fact that he stunk last week is no more or less meaningful than the three strong performances he had in the previous weeks. It’s all part of the process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeedoeLaw Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, nine said: Yup....no doubt about it: Marcus was bad on Sunday. He’s been better this year than he was last year....but he’s still having his ups and downs. Prior to last week, he had three strong performances in a row, followed by a stinker. Inconsistent. It would be great if consistency could be fixed overnight just by flipping a light switch... or if we could see steady linear progress with improvement every single week. But it simply doesn’t work like that. Even the most consistent players aren’t great every single week; it’s a matter of peaks and valleys. You ultimately want the peaks to outnumber the valleys, with peaks that are sky-high and valleys that aren’t all that low. Mariota ain’t there yet. But like I said: this year has been better than last year. Not that this is any consolation when he plays poorly...but the fact is, this was his first bad game in a month. That’s a hell of a lot better than last year, when he couldn’t even put two good games back to back. It shows progress. Will Marcus ever develop the level of consistency needed to make this team successful? Hell, I don’t know. Last year was a big step back, and at this point he hasn’t recovered to the extent we hoped to see. But the fact that he stunk last week is no more or less meaningful than the three strong performances he had in the previous weeks. It’s all part of the process. Exactly. Everyone is so quick to judge. Lets see where he is when the season ends. We may need to invest in some competition for him. In my eyes he could still earn the right to be the unquestioned franchise guy for this team, but he is going to have to play like he did against the pats and cowboys for the rest of this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denali Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 Hot and cold. Inconsistent. No norm. Always, everyday. The true mark of mediocrity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 Quote I don’t want to be too hard on Mariota. He’s a very talented player and just last week we saw him using his mind to beat the brakes off a Bill Belichick defense. The problem is his inconsistency. All quarterbacks have bad games and good games. Tom Brady was awful against the Titans in that game and we’ve seen Blake Bortles shred a defense before (remember Week 16 in 2016?). What separates a good quarterback from a bad one is the frequency of the good and bad games. Right now, Mariota is a 50-50 quarterback. Some weeks, he shows up and can do no wrong. Other weeks we looks like he’s seeing ghosts. For the Titans to take the next step, they need these bad performances to become the exception. The conclusion in the article isn't really saying anything new. Maybe it's new for MCM. We've known Mariota is inconsistent. It's been my critique of him since his rookie year. He hasn't really improved in that area. That's the big concern! Even if he plays well for the next 6 weeks it won't be something we haven't seen before. He played pretty well for that 8 game period in the middle of the year in 2016 (sandwiched between 4 bad weeks to start and end the year). Right now I'm thinking that if (big if) there was a rookie they loved and they were in position to get him they would do it this year. But I'm pretty sure that guy doesn't exist. The dearth of realistic alternatives means he'll probably be the guy next year too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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