IowaOiler Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 Anyone drafting a RB in the first is retarded. rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted March 2 Author Report Share Posted March 2 1 hour ago, IowaOiler said: Anyone drafting a RB in the first is retarded. Unwind your hiney hairs a little. It's just a guess based on shit that's been reported. Well, a guess on my part. I prefer WR or edge, but Borgonzi and co may see potential in a game-altering RB like Love. And there seems to be a shift in philosophy that says "never draft a RB high" because of positional value, at least when it comes to RBs who are multi-faceted threats. Love Oman said Love would boost the offense and make the team better quicker, but a pass rusher would go further to turning the team into a Super Bowl contender. But they could find an impact pass rusher in the 2nd round. Who knows? At the end of the day the idea that the Titans have Love at the top of their board could just be misdirection to get other teams who may want him to pony up when the Titans are on the clock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaOiler Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 40 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: Unwind your hiney hairs a little. It's just a guess based on shit that's been reported. Well, a guess on my part. I prefer WR or edge, but Borgonzi and co may see potential in a game-altering RB like Love. And there seems to be a shift in philosophy that says "never draft a RB high" because of positional value, at least when it comes to RBs who are multi-faceted threats. Love Oman said Love would boost the offense and make the team better quicker, but a pass rusher would go further to turning the team into a Super Bowl contender. But they could find an impact pass rusher in the 2nd round. Who knows? At the end of the day the idea that the Titans have Love at the top of their board could just be misdirection to get other teams who may want him to pony up when the Titans are on the clock. Oman is right...and I have to believe that the Titans brass are more interested in becoming a SB contender than boosting the offense. If we waste our first rounder on a RB, it'll be proof that the franchise isn't serious. rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 Just now, IowaOiler said: Oman is right...and I have to believe that the Titans brass are more interested in becoming a SB contender than boosting the offense. If we waste our first rounder on a RB, it'll be proof that the franchise isn't serious. My fave part is this board complains (rightly ) that this teams runs the ball too much…and most of them are now clamoring for a RB at 4. It’s insane. IowaOiler, Kcroy420, and Supernope 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted March 2 Author Report Share Posted March 2 29 minutes ago, IowaOiler said: If we waste our first rounder on a RB, it'll be proof that the franchise isn't serious. Or it'll mean... and just hear me out... that they don't think the pass rushers at the top of the draft are as game-changing as they're hyped up to be and that they think they can get a comparable player later. And before you start accusing me of whatever, just know that I made the argument in the combine thread of drafting edge or whatever in the 1st and drafting Jadarian Price later in the draft when the topic of Love came up. I'm just saying I can see the argument of drafting a guy who can be an impact player in both the run and pass game and help take pressure off Cam, especially/specifically if they do have some 2nd round edge guys rated only slightly below the "main guys" at the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 Everything in moderation even moderation. There are standards when drafting that smart teams try to adhere to... but there's also outliers. The DEs are projecting as normally late firsts. The top WRs are projecting as late 1st/early second players. There's no true LT at the top The DTs are outside the top 10 The CBs are good players but no one is true shutdown ballhawks. Its an outlier type of year. So whats the plan? Off ball LB? Has Saleh not clearly proven he can put a very good defense together without top talent? Hasnt Borgonzi said the #1 goal for the off-season is to surround and support Cam? (there's a ton of ways to do that but the most direct way is clearly on the Offensive side of the ball) Didnt Daboll say they were going back to year 1 with Cam?... don't smart teams develop QBs with a strong run game? There's absolutely a very solid case for a "generational" RB that is projecting as good or better than as Saquon/Bijon/Gibbs/CMC... The #1 thing you do is surround your young QB with talent that helps him. The OL is decent. We need skill players. If the prognostications are true, then Love is basically another WR when not in the backfield. When running, he's supposed to be the closest thing to CJ/Henry for big plays that the league has seen. Let me finish by saying I dont mind either way how we go with Love.... but 100% it's just as silly to brush off the logic behind drafting this RB - in this draft - for this team. A normal year.. maybe not. This year though? Clearly a possibility. charleytolar, NashvilleNinja, and prometheus 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 1 hour ago, rns90 said: My fave part is this board complains (rightly ) that this teams runs the ball too much…and most of them are now clamoring for a RB at 4. It’s insane. All they had to hear was he is good at catching the ball and it was off to the races. titanruss, rns90, and DCTitan 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 15 minutes ago, Callidus said: All they had to hear was he is good at catching the ball and it was off to the races. Gotta add in the long runs. Those have a tendency to skew perspectives. Callidus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted March 2 Author Report Share Posted March 2 35 minutes ago, titanruss said: Let me finish by saying I dont mind either way how we go with Love.... but 100% it's just as silly to brush off the logic behind drafting this RB - in this draft - for this team. A normal year.. maybe not. This year though? Clearly a possibility. That's pretty much everything in a nutshell. If you were going to draft a RB high (top 5-10) as BPA, this is the draft to do it in. It's the perfect storm of supposed lack of clear can't-miss talent at the premium positions coupled with a potential can't-miss Saquon Barkley/Bijan Robinson/Jahmyr Gibbs level RB. On top of that is the fact the Titans actually do need to address RB either this year or next. Not looking a gift horse in the mouth could be a real thing this year. titanruss, and prometheus 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 2 minutes ago, rns90 said: Gotta add in the long runs. Those have a tendency to skew perspectives. I'd like to see his efficiency numbers. Success rates.. etc. Notre Dame played some cupcakes and faced heavy boxes a ton which can lead to big runs. DCTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 (edited) 5 minutes ago, titanruss said: I'd like to see his efficiency numbers. Success rates.. etc. Notre Dame played some cupcakes and faced heavy boxes a ton which can lead to big runs. I actually have to do more watching on him but I have an issue if most of your big plays are against cupcakes. This is a general criticism and not centered on Love specifically. Edited March 2 by rns90 titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 1 minute ago, NashvilleNinja said: That's pretty much everything in a nutshell. If you were going to draft a RB high (top 5-10) as BPA, this is the draft to do it in. It's the perfect storm of supposed lack of clear can't-miss talent at the premium positions coupled with a potential can't-miss Saquon Barkley/Bijan Robinson/Jahmyr Gibbs level RB. On top of that is the fact the Titans actually do need to address RB either this year or next. Not looking a gift horse in the mouth could be a real thing this year. If they DO draft Love or plan on going RB in the draft, then you are free to trade Pollard. You could get a 4th or 5th for him. I have no idea what we will do. I would say "dont make more holes" by trading Pollard... but Borg seems to believe in his ability to fill the holes he makes with better talent. NashvilleNinja 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 Just now, rns90 said: I actually have to do more watching on him but I have an issue if most of your big plays are against cupcakes. This is a general criticism and not centered on Love specifically. Absolutely. He is also said to be like a WR when lined out wide.. but he only had like 25 catches per year. rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 3 minutes ago, titanruss said: If they DO draft Love or plan on going RB in the draft, then you are free to trade Pollard. You could get a 4th or 5th for him. I have no idea what we will do. I would say "dont make more holes" by trading Pollard... but Borg seems to believe in his ability to fill the holes he makes with better talent. I would have said no before today , getting anything decent for Pollard. But the Texans just gave up a decent pick for Montgomery. At worst if he nets a fifth, that gives up 3 of those. I’d be really tempted to move one of those picks for a vet who can still play. titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 5 minutes ago, rns90 said: I would have said no before today , getting anything decent for Pollard. But the Texans just gave up a decent pick for Montgomery. At worst if he nets a fifth, that gives up 3 of those. I’d be really tempted to move one of those picks for a vet who can still play. NYG need a RB but not sure who on O we would want. Jets could use an RB if they dont want to spend on Hall.. there's still some guys there from Salehs D. As far as just trading for other RBs, I dont know who is any better than Pollard at that price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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