Rogue Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 In the intro, they showed Lord Mormont giving Jon his Valaryian steel sword Longclaw (after Jon saved his life from the wight). Valaryian steel is superior to all other steel and no one even knows how to make it following the Doom of Valyria. At the very least, it was probably all forged in a volcano, but I expect it also was given some sort of magical properties by the Valyrians. I assume that sets Jon up for another sword fight with the White Walkers down the road. Brienne also has a Valyrian steel sword, from Jamie. Joffrey had one, but I don't know what became of it. Bran was attacked by someone with Littlefinger's Valaryian steel dagger in season 1 (he lied and said it was Tyrion's) but I don't know who has it now. Not sure who else might have Valyrian steel now. But they can get obsidian from Dragonstone and whatever minimal stock they still have from what they found on the Fist of the First men that Jon didn't leave behind at Hardhome. Thanks, I just started watching the show yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kM2lxW0nIY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkKmOAOTCkw Edited June 1, 2015 by Rogue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
volntitan Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I love Game of Thrones, but as many of the non-GOT book readers, I often find myself barely hanging on to all the storylines and characters. This thread has helped alot with keeping things "in line" for me. Someone will talk about a character and I have no idea, beyond alot of the main ones, who that person is until I google a pic. That said, I'm right in saying the much of the focus of this show are all various "kings/queens" trying to claim the Iron Throne which seems to be the holy grail. Would the same be said for this White Walker king we saw last night. Is his goal to kill the living or to take the Iron Throne? Just wondering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) Thanks, I just started watching the show yesterday. You should probably start back on season 1, episode 1 before you watch any more. It definitely build on the story over the years. And it's only 10 eps a year so it isn't insurmountable. And it's very worthwhile. But skip the books at this point... Edited June 1, 2015 by Starkiller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I love Game of Thrones, but as many of the non-GOT book readers, I often find myself barely hanging on to all the storylines and characters. This thread has helped alot with keeping things "in line" for me. Someone will talk about a character and I have no idea, beyond alot of the main ones, who that person is until I google a pic. That said, I'm right in saying the much of the focus of this show are all various "kings/queens" trying to claim the Iron Throne which seems to be the holy grail. Would the same be said for this White Walker king we saw last night. Is his goal to kill the living or to take the Iron Throne? Just wondering. I doubt he cares about taking the Iron Throne itself. It means nothing to him. But basically yes, he clearly wants to rule Westeros in his own way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 You should probably start back on season 1, episode 1 before you watch any more. It definitely build on the story over the years. And it's only 10 eps a year so it isn't insurmountable. And it's very worthwhile. But skip the books at this point... It seems pretty self explanatory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Don't skip the books. They actually make sense. A hand works with only a few fingers (right, Theon?) but all five sure are better. The fact that the Lannisters couldn't get a Valyrian sword was always a bit incongruous... but it is in the books. It seems pretty self explanatory. Do yourself a favor. Even watching this episode has robbed you. Starkiller, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Music City Miracle Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) The question is who were or are these (as Clay Travis puts it) four horsemen of the apocalypse? I saw some threads that said they are former great leaders of Westeros (Targaryan). From what I read and have heard, we were actually dealing with three different types of "people". The skeletons/zombies with no blue eyes were death walkers (according to an HBO leak). These are the kind of people who attacked Bran last season. The wights are the dead who are re-animated with blue eyes, like the woman who got destroyed by kids the worst case of cooties ever (VACCINATE YOUR CHILDREN!), The white walkers are those full white bodied creatures with the horses and custom armor and weapons. PS- I was praying for a white walker giant. PPS- I was convinced that the shady hooded figure rowing the boat was a white walker who was going to get them PPPS-I was convinced that the white walker preacher telling the white walker congregation to rise was going to freeze the sea allowing the "massacre" to continue. Edited June 1, 2015 by The Music City Miracle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 It seems pretty self explanatory. It is very definitely not... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Don't skip the books. They actually make sense. A hand works with only a few fingers (right, Theon?) but all five sure are better. Skipping the books is fine for anyone who wants to catch up to the show. But I do love the books (the first 3 anyway) so I'm not saying he should never read them. Just wait until he is caught up on the TV show. The fact that the Lannisters couldn't get a Valyrian sword was always a bit incongruous... but it is in the books. It isn't incongruous. It just goes to show the insane value of Valaryian steel. It is worth more than any amount of money. It is literally irreplacable. You would have to be desperate to trade away something like that. And the lords of the great houses would rarely be likely to be that desperate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 The question is who were or are these (as Clay Travis puts it) four horsemen of the apocalypse? I saw some threads that said they are former great leaders of Westeros (Targaryan). From what I read and have heard, we were actually dealing with three different types of "people". The skeletons/zombies with no blue eyes were death walkers (according to an HBO leak). These are the kind of people who attacked Bran last season. The wights are the dead who are re-animated with blue eyes, like the woman who got destroyed by kids the worst case of cooties ever (VACCINATE YOUR CHILDREN!), The white walkers are those full white bodied creatures with the horses and custom armor and weapons. PS- I was praying for a white walker giant. PPS- I was convinced that the shady hooded figure rowing the boat was a white walker who was going to get them PPPS-I was convinced that the white walker preacher telling the white walker congregation to rise was going to freeze the sea allowing the "massacre" to continue. Well, the White Walkers haven't been seen for thousands of years, before any of the current houses other than those in the North existed in Westros. A Stark built the Wall. But none of the other houses even existed. And skeletal wights vs wights with flesh may just depend on the state of the body when it was re-animated. The Music City Miracle 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Valyrian swords are so special that the richest and most powerful house can't even buy one... but Jon is given one just because. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Valyrian swords are so special that the richest and most powerful house can't even buy one... but Jon is given one just because. Jon was given the sword because he saved Lord Mormont's life. It was the sword passed down through house Mormont like all other great houses did. But after he passed it down to Jorah (his only son), Jorah disgraced the family. When he went into exile he left the sword behind. Jeor Mormont, having no one else to leave his sword to, gave his bastard sword to the bastard who saved his life... reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) Except his daughters and his house. He took their most prized possession, a super special-awesome family heirloom you can't even buy, and gave it away. This wasn't last of the Mohicans or something. His line continues. Edited June 1, 2015 by Jamalisms oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Except his daughters and his house. He took their most prized possession, a super special-awesome family heirloom you can't even buy, and gave it away. This wasn't last of the Mohicans or something. His line continues. But none of his daughters are the protagonists/main action heroes of the book so they don't need a dope as fuck sword. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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