Mike Vrabel's a Winner!

[LongTimeFan]

Anybody thinking any team is giving up any draft picks for Vrabel is fucking delusional. 

[Number9]

1 hour ago, charleytolar said:

Vrabel's (a.k.a. meathead) brains or lack thereof likewise had nothing to with the two blocked punts and the missed extra point.

The dump Vrabel philosophy has so many weaknesses, it looks like Swiss cheese.

 

#1.  The talent on the team now.

#2.  Vrabel's record 2018-2021 when the team had top talent.

#3.  The Titans were one of the top scoring teams in the NFL during this time, except 21' when Henry went down, plus record injuries.  There is absolutely no evidence to support the idea he's averse to scoring as fast and as much as possible with his talent.  None.

 

Getting a new head coach is a crap shoot.  Every opening the Titans advertise never draws the Top Guys available.  Whisenhunt.  Malarkey.  JRob.  Vrabel.  Ran.  But somehow, this time the hottest NFL offensive minds are going to be beating down the door to come to the Tennessee Titans.

[IowaOiler]

1 hour ago, Number9 said:

The dump Vrabel philosophy has so many weaknesses, it looks like Swiss cheese.

 

#1.  The talent on the team now.

#2.  Vrabel's record 2018-2021 when the team had top talent.

#3.  The Titans were one of the top scoring teams in the NFL during this time, except 21' when Henry went down, plus record injuries.  There is absolutely no evidence to support the idea he's averse to scoring as fast and as much as possible with his talent.  None.

 

Getting a new head coach is a crap shoot.  Every opening the Titans advertise never draws the Top Guys available.  Whisenhunt.  Malarkey.  JRob.  Vrabel.  Ran.  But somehow, this time the hottest NFL offensive minds are going to be beating down the door to come to the Tennessee Titans.

 

I'd take the odds of the crapshoot, especially when we have several quality offensive minded coaches that will be getting interviews, over watching meathead fuck up the basics every week.  

[rns90]

35 minutes ago, IowaOiler said:

 

I'd take the odds of the crapshoot, especially when we have several quality offensive minded coaches that will be getting interviews, over watching meathead fuck up the basics every week.  

I'd also wager that those first time HC will produce better than a 4-15 record plus they won't get their qb's killed per game, and actually run a modern NFL passing offense plus field at least OK ST and defensive units.  We STINK at all 3 at this point.  Nowhere to go but up.

[Number9]

1 minute ago, rns90 said:

I'd also wager that those first time HC will produce better than a 4-15 record plus they won't get their qb's killed per game, and actually run a modern NFL passing offense plus field at least OK ST and defensive units.  We STINK at all 3 at this point.  Nowhere to go but up.

I don't know who has the 4-15 record.  Maybe that's the team's record over a certain span of games.  In that case, a person could select a different span of games as evidence he's a great coach.  I don't like to run down individual players.

 

But last week and today, Levis threw two catchable balls to NWI.  Both times the first thing I thought was he's not going to catch a ball like that, just doesn't have that skillset.  His catch radius is tiny, especially when it's big play time.  Today, Levis stopped as they were huddling up and spoke briefly to Dhop.  He then threw the ball to Dhop.

 

What would the passing game look like if AJB was still here?

[ctm]

There are reasons that most organizations do an annual performance review.  One of those reason is that the most recent performance is the most relevent to judging the employees future performance.  Is the employee getting better?  Worse?

 

4-15  Not to mention, that was an embarrassing product that Vrabel put on the field yesterday.

[IowaOiler]

7 hours ago, Number9 said:

I don't know who has the 4-15 record.  Maybe that's the team's record over a certain span of games.  In that case, a person could select a different span of games as evidence he's a great coach.  I don't like to run down individual players.

 

But last week and today, Levis threw two catchable balls to NWI.  Both times the first thing I thought was he's not going to catch a ball like that, just doesn't have that skillset.  His catch radius is tiny, especially when it's big play time.  Today, Levis stopped as they were huddling up and spoke briefly to Dhop.  He then threw the ball to Dhop.

 

What would the passing game look like if AJB was still here?

 

The fact you're clueless as to meatheads recent record despite it being thrown around the board the entire season, is proof you don't ever read or listen to anyone else, and it puts all your uneducated opinions into perspective.  You went balls deep on meathead and now it's like his foreskin is stuck on your uvula and you just continue to act happy.  

[TerryBoats]

4 hours ago, ctm said:

There are reasons that most organizations do an annual performance review.  One of those reason is that the most recent performance is the most relevent to judging the employees future performance.  Is the employee getting better?  Worse?

 

4-15  Not to mention, that was an embarrassing product that Vrabel put on the field yesterday.

The 2 blocked punts were the worst plays I've seen from a coaching perspective since the Colts fake punt vs NE.  A totally pop Warner level coaching mistake.

 

Stonehouse should sue him and Auckerman-  It's beyond job expectations for a punter to get hit like that.  I've never seen an unblocked rusher able to tee up on one before.

[Mythos27]

Noted Vrabel defender here; Yesterday's loss was mostly on coaching. The special teams miscues in particular were indefensible. The failure to adjust in the secondary was egregious (how often are you going to get beat on slants)? Vrabel's clock management was poor down the stretch IMO and he mixed in some questionable play-calling to boot. Yes, some players made mistakes but they largely outplayed their coaching. Spears in particular got them out of some shitty spots. 

[oldschool]

Just now, Mythos27 said:

Noted Vrabel defender here; Yesterday's loss was mostly on coaching. The special teams miscues in particular were indefensible. The failure to adjust in the secondary was egregious (how often are you going to get beat on slants)? Vrabel's clock management was poor down the stretch IMO and he mixed in some questionable play-calling to boot. Yes, some players made mistakes but they largely outplayed their coaching. Spears in particular got them out of some shitty spots. 

 

many here hide behind the roster which isn't good but this team isn't much different from last year when injuries derailed a 7-3 start. I really think Vrabel has lost the team. 4-15 over their last 19 games is not something he should recover from. 

[Mythos27]

6 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

many here hide behind the roster which isn't good but this team isn't much different from last year when injuries derailed a 7-3 start. I really think Vrabel has lost the team. 4-15 over their last 19 games is not something he should recover from. 

I've been tough on the roster and I think in certain games we were thoroughly out-matched to the point that it was clearly the deciding factor. That wasn't the case at all yesterday. Our team was ready to win that game and coaching held them back. Much more of that and I'll definitely re-evaluate my stance. Winning in the NFL is too hard to give away games like that. They straight up failed to protect Stonehouse and who knows how damaging that hit was. It's unacceptable. 

[BudsOilers]

The Titans have lost plenty of times this year where the talent gap was not massive or existent.  They clearly are in the same class as Indy talent wise, Pittsburgh, and NO too and lost all 4.     

[tgo]

16 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

The Titans have lost plenty of times this year where the talent gap was not massive or existent.  They clearly are in the same class as Indy talent wise, Pittsburgh, and NO too and lost all 4.     

 

You think they are in the same talent class as the team with Quenton Nelson, Ryan Kelly, Braden Smith on the OL and a better WR group?

 

Or the team with Joey Porter Jr, TJ Watt, Cam Heyward, Minkah Fitzpatrick, Broderick Jones, Washington and Freiermuth at TE, and then Pickens/Allen Robinson at WR?

 

Or the team with Andrus Peat, Erik McCoy, Cesar Ruiz, and James Hurst on the OL? And Demario Davis, Marshon Lattimore, Cam Jordan, Mathieu on defense?

 

I'd agree those three teams are about even at the QB position vs a rookie Levis or veteran Tannehill - but the OL composition is vastly different vs the Saints and Colts, and Steelers have much better defensive personnel overall and better offensive talent at the skill positions sans RB.

 

The personnel difference of course isn't as massive as the Titans vs. Miami or Philadelphia or Kansas City or whatever, but it's still a tier difference.

 

The Titans are more in the talent class of the Panthers, Patriots, Bears, Commanders than Indy, New Orleans, Pittsburgh in my opinion.

 

[BudsOilers]

17 minutes ago, tgo said:

 

You think they are in the same talent class as the team with Quenton Nelson, Ryan Kelly, Braden Smith on the OL and a better WR group?

 

Or the team with Joey Porter Jr, TJ Watt, Cam Heyward, Minkah Fitzpatrick, Broderick Jones, Washington and Freiermuth at TE, and then Pickens/Allen Robinson at WR?

 

Or the team with Andrus Peat, Erik McCoy, Cesar Ruiz, and James Hurst on the OL? And Demario Davis, Marshon Lattimore, Cam Jordan, Mathieu on defense?

 

I'd agree those three teams are about even at the QB position vs a rookie Levis or veteran Tannehill - but the OL composition is vastly different vs the Saints and Colts, and Steelers have much better defensive personnel overall and better offensive talent at the skill positions sans RB.

 

The personnel difference of course isn't as massive as the Titans vs. Miami or Philadelphia or Kansas City or whatever, but it's still a tier difference.

 

The Titans are more in the talent class of the Panthers, Patriots, Bears, Commanders than Indy, New Orleans, Pittsburgh in my opinion.

 

The Titans have been competitive and honestly should have won at least half if not 3 of those 4 games vs the teams I mentioned.  This idea they are talent ridden across the board just isn't true.  They do have holes but they also are poorly coached, undisciplined, and are consistent at one thing - beating themselves.

[tgo]

9 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

The Titans have been competitive and honestly should have won at least half if not 3 of those 4 games vs the teams I mentioned.  This idea they are talent ridden across the board just isn't true.  They do have holes but they also are poorly coached, undisciplined, and are consistent at one thing - beating themselves.

 

I guess we'll see if the powers at be agree with your assessment as to what the issues are in a few weeks.

 

You can look at the roster and compare rosters and position groups league wide and see that the personnel overall is bottom rung garbage.

 

11 starters on the team are replacement level (including 4 of 5 starting OL) - almost half the positions on the team don't even have decent starters much less high level starters.