OILERMAN Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, IrishTitansFan said: He was universally loved by Titans fans and media in 2020. In some ways he set the bar too high for himself. Even though it was 100% obvious in 2019 Tannehill should be the starter to start the season the media scoffed at the idea he was better than Mariota. Remember the Glennon training camp report that said RT was 2 of 17 in one practice, which was 100% false. Then during the 2019 turn around while RT was playing lights out multiple stories about Mariota being the first one on the practice field etc..... The team didn't want to praise Tannehill too much to upset Mariota. Then it was all Derrick Henry, any QB can do what RT was doing. Now it's just an all out mob. And yes I make no apologies for being a big Tannehill fan, dude made the team a contender and has played great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, oldschool said: Clearly Tannehill hasn't been persecuted. He's been bashed non stop for missing phase 1 of the offseason program, which half the team missed, including the HC. Derrick Henry missed it(the engine of the whole team!). He was bashed for not reaching out to Burks right away. He was blamed for the team losing AJ because of his contract yesterday by PK. He was attacked for being beaten down yesterday in a normal presser where he was fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 minute ago, oldschool said: You and I remember 2019 and 2020 very differently. There were are ton of articles how Tannehill was alo g for the ride and benefitted from Henry. Calls for the team to have given Mariota more of chance and so on. Now I'm not going to say @BudsOilers is correct either. Clearly Tannehill hasn't been persecuted. It's a more of case of idiots not understanding what the see on the field. Right. I don't think they're persecuting him but rather aren't competent enough to hold him accountable properly. The straight up comments about seeking therapy being a sign of mental weakness are disgusting btw. Fuck all of you who either implied or directly said it. That stupid stigma is the reason hundreds of men end up with a gun in their mouth every year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, oldschool said: You and I remember 2019 and 2020 very differently. There were are ton of articles how Tannehill was alo g for the ride and benefitted from Henry. Calls for the team to have given Mariota more of chance and so on. Now I'm not going to say @BudsOilers is correct either. Clearly Tannehill hasn't been persecuted. It's a more of case of idiots not understanding what the see on the field. 2019 was definitely an all out protection of Mariota, 2020 was a Tannehill love fest for good reason @OILERMAN, look at all these articles saying any QB can do what RT can do! No instead at the time we actually got Titans fans on Twitter saying Tannehill was better than Mahomes, not in the example below but I saw it often Of course nationally the perception has always been it's all been down to Henry, which the local fanbase lean into when the QB plays badly. https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2020/10/22/tennessee-titans-ryan-tannehill-mvp-conversation/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, oldschool said: You and I remember 2019 and 2020 very differently. There were are ton of articles on how Tannehill was along for the ride and benefitted from Henry. Calls for the team to have given Mariota more of chance and so on. Now I'm not going to say @BudsOilers is correct either. Clearly Tannehill hasn't been persecuted. It's more a case of idiots not understanding what they see on the field. Nope I’m correct as always…… There’s been a concerted effort by the local media to paint Tannehill in a very specific way this off-season. It’s undeniable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 13 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: He's been bashed non stop for missing phase 1 of the offseason program, which half the team missed, including the HC. Derrick Henry missed it(the engine of the whole team!). He was bashed for not reaching out to Burks right away. He was blamed for the team losing AJ because of his contract yesterday by PK. He was attacked for being beaten down yesterday in a normal presser where he was fine. Nowhere near the level needed to claim persecution.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, IrishTitansFan said: 2019 was definitely an all out protection of Mariota, 2020 was a Tannehill love fest for good reason @OILERMAN, look at all these articles saying any QB can do what RT can do! No instead at the time we actually got Titans fans on Twitter saying Tannehill was better than Mahomes, not in the example below but I saw it often Of course nationally the perception has always been it's all been down to Henry, which the local fanbase lean into when the QB plays badly. https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2020/10/22/tennessee-titans-ryan-tannehill-mvp-conversation/ Oh please. Tannehill had incredible numbers that put him in the conversation as a top 5 QB that season. The conversation was fine. Doesn't mean anyk e said he was as good as Mahomes or Rodgers career wise, simply that over the stretch of 2019 and 2020 he played near the same level they did over that span. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 When you throw three INTs in a playoff game and are easily the biggest reason that the team lost how do you expect people to react? Particularly when the reputation that you have is you can't play big in big games. Fair or not, when people look at the Tennessee Titans they see a team that is talented but lacking at the most important position. Which is why you see them ranked in the middle of the pack in power rankings and Super Bowl odds despite last season. People look at them as a pretender because of one player. And until he proves he can elevate the team in the playoffs it's always going to be like that. It's not a heck of a lot different than how the Chiefs were viewed for the first five years of the Andy Reid era. They were always talented but they went 1-4 in the playoffs, 0-2 at home. Alex Smith got blamed. The QB's always going to get blamed. Until the QB proves that he can elevate his team. Tannehill has yet to prove he can do that in the playoffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, scine09 said: When you throw three INTs in a playoff game and are easily the biggest reason that the team lost how do you expect people to react? Particularly when the reputation that you have is you can't play big in big games. Fair or not, when people look at the Tennessee Titans they see a team that is talented but lacking at the most important position. Which is why you see them ranked in the middle of the pack in power rankings and Super Bowl odds despite last season. People look at them as a pretender because of one player. And until he proves he can elevate the team in the playoffs it's always going to be like that. It's not a heck of a lot different than how the Chiefs were viewed for the first five years of the Andy Reid era. They were always talented but they went 1-4 in the playoffs, 0-2 at home. Alex Smith got blamed. The QB's always going to get blamed. Until the QB proves that he can elevate his team. Tannehill has yet to prove he can do that in the playoffs. I expect knowledgeable fans and more importantly the professionals who cover the team to be able to separate the terrible cincy game from the rest of Tannehill's resume as the Titans QB. Instead most of them are acting like you have over the past 4 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 56 minutes ago, IrishTitansFan said: Complete wild hyperbole. Seriously, does Tannehill have you and OMAN's nudes? He was universally loved by Titans fans and media in 2020. In some ways he set the bar too high for himself. I don't know how many times I saw the stats comparing him to Mahomes, Titans fans and media were (correctly for a lot of the season) clamouring for him to be the MVP in 2020 until the Green Bay game Tannehill then lost in the playoffs in back to back years with the most recent loss coming with 3 interceptions. The average NFL fan is retarded and will pin those losses squarely on the QB when he has mediocre or bad stats and a dominant RB. Basically every city in the NFL who has a team with Super Bowl aspirations are going to be pissed at the QB in that situation until he's on the field again. The local media (bar some quacks with their own youtubes) aren't calling for Tannehills head at all Tannehill isn't some pariah who is getting treated differently to any other QB would in his situation This is both true and misses the boat a little bit, I think. There was a great resistance to accepting him as better than Mariota after the switch. And then he did amazing in 2019 and 2020 and even the Mariota supporters had to come around. He was then hyped to a great degree by this fan base and there was a lot of objection whenever he wasn't talked about as highly as his stats seemed to support (and his stats supported him being in the elite of elite conversation). In 2021, he had a down year from basically week one on and his support started to erode, though it was still there and you can even look at this message board where the majority of posters defended him all through the year and looked to instability around him as the explanation for his statistical decline. His goodwill lasted through the season and then the playoff game opened the floodgates. It went from a situation where I was one of the more outspoken people saying he had taken a step back to now I'm constantly finding myself thinking that his critics are insane and over the top and I, at least, have often thought that it seems like many of those most vocal critics are the same people who were the slowest to accept him when he took over for Mariota. That seems like they reluctantly agreed he's doing well and now they're feverishly back the other way. I think it's a mix. I also think, by the way, that BudOilers is hilariously over the top in his defense anytime Tanny is slighted. He's basically turned into the foil of late-stage Mariota defenders at this point, where no criticism is valid and every excuse is offered at all times and nothing is ever really the guy's fault and everything is exaggerated to an absurd degree. The most persecuted quarterback ever? That's funny. Anyway, you're right and you're wrong and it's all a mix, as far as I'm concerned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 At least we aren't dealing with this... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, oldschool said: I expect knowledgeable fans and more importantly the professionals who cover the team to be able to separate the terrible cincy game from the rest of Tannehill's resume as the Titans QB. Instead most of them are acting like you have over the past 4 months. Tannehill has a reputation. Which he played right into against the Bengals. When you add up the fact that not only did he cost the team a chance to go to the Super Bowl with the fact that I'd say the overwhelming majority of football fans and media think he's a pretender and JAG, this is what you get. If you replaced him with probably a dozen or so QBs right now for 2022 the overall feeling around the team would improve drastically. I'm not saying it's fair or unfair, but the general pessimism that the board has undertaken in the past four months and I'd say the overall fan base too is because of one guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 I'll also add that it's going to be a long. fucking. year. if the microscope stays this focused on nitpicking Tannehill. I take some petty joy in how it forces some people to constantly rise to his defense ... and even I'm already annoyed by it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 People are too high on Tannehill and people are too low on Tannehill when everything says he's somewhere in the middle. Where he's always been. How high and how low he goes from there depends on his supporting cast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 43 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: He's been bashed non stop for missing phase 1 of the offseason program, which half the team missed, including the HC. Derrick Henry missed it(the engine of the whole team!). He was bashed for not reaching out to Burks right away. He was blamed for the team losing AJ because of his contract yesterday by PK. He was attacked for being beaten down yesterday in a normal presser where he was fine. Just getting started. Will only worse with Willis here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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