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16 hours ago, LongTimeFan said:

Cutting off the Keystone I think is a huge mistake. First, 11,000 jobs killed with a stroke of a pen. More than 3 or 4 times that many jobs that supported those workers, devasted or will be gone soon. For what reason? They say these workers can go make solar panels. Come on, people aren't that stupid.

 

You will say the pipeline hurts the environment,  but Canada is going to move that oil and will sell it to others. Or it will come by rail or truck, which hurts the environment more. 

 

What about the price of gas? Its about $1.96 around here. Whats it going to be like in a year? What about the gas tax Pete B is talking about. Isn't that a tax hike that hits the middle class?

 

I heard that almost 50% of New Mexico revenue comes from natural gas on federal lands. What's that going to do to their economy?

 

I am all for moving to renewable energy. But renewable technology is not at a place that it can replace oil and gas right now. I hope it does someday. Thats what the free market is for. When renewables are better and more cost effective, they will naturally dry up the oil and gas industry. Until then, this is stupidity and the government trying to pick winners and losers.

How much of this oil was going to be refined into gas for the US market?

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24 minutes ago, unauthorizedcinnamon said:

How much of this oil was going to be refined into gas for the US market?

If it were only for the US they could send it through the already existing pipeline to the refinery in Illinois...
 

They just want to refine it and sell it overseas. It doesn’t benefit Americans at all.

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Biden hasn't even addressed the fact windmills cause cancer 

 

"Idiotic," said Sen. Chuck Grassley.

"It’s ridiculous," said Sen. Joni Ernst.

Iowa’s two Republican senators were talking about President Donald Trump’s comment that windmills cause cancer.

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2 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

Biden hasn't even addressed the fact windmills cause cancer 

 

"Idiotic," said Sen. Chuck Grassley.

"It’s ridiculous," said Sen. Joni Ernst.

Iowa’s two Republican senators were talking about President Donald Trump’s comment that windmills cause cancer.

Hasn’t addressed it? Biden fucking CURED windmill cancer...

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On 2/7/2021 at 2:44 PM, TitansFan777 said:

Lol don’t forget that Agent Orange also said the windmills programmatically kill eagles.

 

Once again, imagine being so fucking stupid that you actually voted for him in 2016 and especially in 2020.

https://windmillskill.com/blog/windfarms-kill-10-20-times-more-previously-thought

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https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/23/oil-leaks-keystone-pipeline-spill-record-506613
 

The company behind the controversial Keystone XL project that President Joe Biden effectively killed on his first day of office had an oil spill record "worse than the national average" over a five-year period thanks to two major spills, according to a Government Accountability Office report published Monday. 
 

The two spills from the Keystone pipelines dumped a combined 12,000 barrels of oil in the Dakotas even as operator TC Energy was planning to expand that pipeline with its proposed Keystone XL project, which would have tripled the amount of crude the pipeline system would carry from Canada into the United States. Biden revoked the permit necessary to allow Keystone XL to cross the U.S.-Canada border, essentially killing the project in a bid to demonstrate his climate bona fides. TC Energy is now in court seeking $15 billion from the U.S. government for the cancellation. 

 

Despite the quick action on Keystone, environmental justice advocates have criticized the Biden administration for failing to take similarly decisive action to shut down other Canada-U.S. pipelines, such as the Line 3 pipeline in Minnesota.

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