AussieTitanFan08 Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former_Fan Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Makaveli said: Why not hire him as Defensive coordinator. I fear Vrabel is becoming a control freak. I hope he doesn't turn into Jeff Fisher Lol. My thoughts exactly. This has Whisenhunt written all over it. He needs to focus on having this team ready and let specialists do their jobs. I don't have a problem with Vrabel being involved in the gameplan defensively, but beyond that he should just let Haslett run it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakingeek Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 3 hours ago, BudAdams said: By all accounts, Vrabel was already heavily involved in game planning and we already know he's a hands on HC. This idea that it's a catastrophe is comical. We don't even know if Vrabel will be calling the plays...... The important thing is that the scheme isn't changing and that's a good thing. One thing that always impressed me about Belichick is his hands-on, in-game coaching of individual players and player groups. I’ve seen Vrabel do that. If he’s calling plays it might make that a little harder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 13 hours ago, Former_Fan said: My thoughts exactly. This has Whisenhunt written all over it. He needs to focus on having this team ready and let specialists do their jobs. I don't have a problem with Vrabel being involved in the gameplan defensively, but beyond that he should just let Haslett run it. I’m sure Robinson signed off on whatever Vrabel has planned at DC this year. Trust in Robinson... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomachek Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 I'm also leaning towards he'll transition to someone during the season calling the defense without giving them the title. That way the responsibility is on him and not a rookie caller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 13 hours ago, Former_Fan said: My thoughts exactly. This has Whisenhunt written all over it. He needs to focus on having this team ready and let specialists do their jobs. I don't have a problem with Vrabel being involved in the gameplan defensively, but beyond that he should just let Haslett run it. In fairness...Whisenhunt’s downfall wasn’t because he was calling plays as the HC; it was because his game plans were unbelievably myopic and short-sighted. The most glaring example was when he repeatedly put a rookie OG-turned-RT (Poutasi) in one-on-one matchups against JJ-freaking-Watt all day long. Anyone else would have seen that disaster coming a mile away..,,but Whisenhunt thought he could make it work. We’ll never see a situation where Vrabel would repeatedly put a rookie LB in man coverage against a Julio Jones or Tyreek Hill; it’s an absolutely ridiculous thought. But Ken Whisenhunt wouldn’t have seen a problem with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 19 hours ago, Former_Fan said: My thoughts exactly. This has Whisenhunt written all over it. He needs to focus on having this team ready and let specialists do their jobs. I don't have a problem with Vrabel being involved in the gameplan defensively, but beyond that he should just let Haslett run it. Haslett has been a bad DC for a long time. Don’t want him calling anything, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Soxcat said: Good point. Experience doesn't always translate to quality. Like the engineer who gets a good new job because he has experience designing crappy stuff. Yep. He’s well respected as a teacher and well connected but this isht the late nineties when he had success as a DC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former_Fan Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 9 hours ago, nine said: In fairness...Whisenhunt’s downfall wasn’t because he was calling plays as the HC; it was because his game plans were unbelievably myopic and short-sighted. The most glaring example was when he repeatedly put a rookie OG-turned-RT (Poutasi) in one-on-one matchups against JJ-freaking-Watt all day long. Anyone else would have seen that disaster coming a mile away..,,but Whisenhunt thought he could make it work. We’ll never see a situation where Vrabel would repeatedly put a rookie LB in man coverage against a Julio Jones or Tyreek Hill; it’s an absolutely ridiculous thought. But Ken Whisenhunt wouldn’t have seen a problem with it. 9 hours ago, Soxcat said: Calling plays for the defense is never going to be anything like the responsibility of calling plays on offense for a HC. My point on Whisenhunt was just the fact that he had his nose in too much, and he was stubborn about it. He was a complete failure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 This is a relatively young coaching staff. With Pees retiring they needed to hire someone at risk for a midseason heart attack or stroke to fill that role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 7 hours ago, JakePA_Titan said: Rex Ryan? Simple Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor247 Posted February 11, 2020 Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 Pees was a terrible old man who lost touch with football a long time ago. I am glad to see him leave. When teams get 9 yards on first down time and time again its time to quit which is what he did. If any team has one fast receiver his entire defensive scheme doesn't work. Rush 3 lose game should be on his license plate for life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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