LongTimeFan Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 As someone who likes most of Trumps policies, I can say I do not agree with this one. While I think he is doing it to get Mexicos attention or Congressional attention, the enforcement is some arbitrary rules he has set. He might do the 5% tariff just so he can save face on this, but I would wager he wont enforce anything after that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 Aren't the migrants coming mostly from Central America anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 4 hours ago, 'Nator said: Serious question. Do we have the dumbest leader? Where does Trump rank? When you factor in the intelligence and the fact he's got the temperament of an 8 year old he's so unfit for office it's plain as day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 26 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: When you factor in the intelligence and the fact he's got the temperament of an 8 year old he's so unfit for office it's plain as day. ….add in lazy and borderline illiterate. He makes no effort to educate himself on the issues and then does the opposite and refuses his briefings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitansFan777 Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 Why can’t it die already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pamo9 Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 54 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Aren't the migrants coming mostly from Central America anyway? Yeah, but dumbass thinks Mexico should turn them away at their southern border somehow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pamo9 Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 45 minutes ago, pamo9 said: Yeah, but dumbass thinks Mexico should turn them away at their southern border somehow For decades since the UN was founded after World War II, the international convention on refugees is that they must be allowed passage to the destination they choose, without interference by any other country. Fyi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, pamo9 said: For decades since the UN was founded after World War II, the international convention on refugees is that they must be allowed passage to the destination they choose, without interference by any other country. Fyi UN! Globalism! New World Order! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 3 hours ago, pamo9 said: Yeah, but dumbass thinks Mexico should turn them away at their southern border somehow Build a wall and we’ll pay for it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/31/trumps-trade-tariffs-mexico-1495449 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 I'm no expert on this stuff and I think Trump trying to just brute force this isn't the right tact but China absolutely has to be dealt with. The IP violations and espionage risk simply can't be tolerated. I don't think this is the right way but I'll take this over nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Mythos27 said: I'm no expert on this stuff and I think Trump trying to just brute force this isn't the right tact but China absolutely has to be dealt with. The IP violations and espionage risk simply can't be tolerated. I don't think this is the right way but I'll take this over nothing. China has plenty of trade issues, but tariffs are a stupid and ineffective way to try and fix the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Mythos27 said: I'm no expert on this stuff and I think Trump trying to just brute force this isn't the right tact but China absolutely has to be dealt with. The IP violations and espionage risk simply can't be tolerated. I don't think this is the right way but I'll take this over nothing. The TPP was the way to deal with China.... too bad the idiot in chief has an Obama complex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 Around two-thirds of U.S. imports from Mexico, which totaled $371.9 billion last year, were “related-party” trade, meaning companies bringing in parts and products as part of their supply chain, according to data compiled by Deutsche Bank. The U.S. imported $124 billion in auto products from Mexico in 2018, which includes new and used passenger vehicles; medium, heavy and other trucks; and auto parts, according to the International Trade Administration. Some auto parts cross the border as many as eight or nine times before becoming finished products, potentially opening up auto giants including GM, Ford and Fiat Chrysler to tariffs exponentially higher than the headline number. “The most important and the second most important and the third most important part of this is cars, car parts, trucks and buses,” said Torsten Slok, chief economist at Deutsche Bank Securities. “This has everything to do with the auto industry, which is by far the biggest beneficiary of our relationship with Mexico and where you will see the most pain if this goes through.” On any given day, more than $452 million worth of auto parts are traded in either direction across the U.S.-Mexico border, said Ann Wilson, senior vice president of the Motor and Equipment Manufacturers Association. The companies also celebrated earlier this month when Trump agreed to lift steel and aluminum tariffs on Mexico and Canada, which raised their production costs. They now face a new and perhaps graver threat. Deutsche Bank estimated the Mexico tariffs could raise the cost of vehicles sold in the U.S. by about $1,300. https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/31/trumps-trade-tariffs-mexico-1495449 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btowner Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 1 hour ago, oldschool said: The TPP was the way to deal with China.... too bad the idiot in chief has an Obama complex. They don’t understand things like the TPP, NAFTA, Iran deal and even the ACA are starting frameworks to bring everyone to the table. They are ever green agreements that will need tweaking and even multiple versions. Instead the approach is to blow everything up and if Obama did it, it’s automatically discarded. I guess they they should have told him TPP is the Trump Pacific Plan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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